Analog Man

[Mr. Papa]

I’d be interested in trying the Chase Bliss and Warm Audio versions to see how they compare. I don’t think the POT is bad at all, some say it is better / tighter, but it is not the same as either channel of the KOT. Close maybe, but doesn’t have the same airy harmonics to my ear. YMMV.

 

[calcheyup]

I had a Prince of Tone for awhile. It was a fine pedal, but nothing about it stood out to me as being especially unique or special, certainly not for the price, and I sold it on Reverb years ago.

Regardless, sorry to hear - always kind of a bummer when you hear about this kind of changing of the tides. Makes me feel old.

 

[garagemonkey]

I had a Prince of Tone for awhile. It was a fine pedal, but nothing about it stood out to me as being especially unique or special, certainly not for the price, and I sold it on Reverb years ago.

I felt the same way. Have been on the KOT waiting list for years now and still have at least 2 years to go. In the meantime I bought a POT and picked up a Demon KOT knockoff several years ago just to see how I liked or didn't like the circuit. The Demon didn't do it for me, which I chalked up to being a knockoff, but then neither did the POT. I even sent the POT off to ThruTone FX in Nashville to have their mod package done to it, which is supposed to make it identical to one side of a KOT. No joy and I put both away in my spare pedal cabinet in the garage until I remembered the internal "treble trimpot"

KOT and POT come with the internal trimpot all the way down. Turning it up not only increases the presence/treble, but in my opinion, changes the character of the gain and depth of the drive. Bumping the internal pot up clockwise 1/3-turn (for me at least) completely transformed the character of this thing and now I'm eyeballing kicking other drives off my larger board to accommodate it. Did the same for the Demon knock-off as well, which by the way, is darn close sounding, especially for the $40 I paid for it.

 

[bluesky636]

This is what happens to any company or person whose most popular product has a wait list of 7 years or some other ridiculous number. He can't sell enough of his other pedals to make enough money to hire more employees and more parts to clear the backlog. Poor business model in my opinion.

 

[Mr. Papa]

This is what happens to any company or person whose most popular product has a wait list of 7 years or some other ridiculous number. He can't sell enough of his other pedals to make enough money to hire more employees and more parts to clear the backlog. Poor business model in my opinion.

The funny thing is I forgot I was on the waiting list for a KOT (since 2012) and meanwhile have bought just about every other pedal they sell, so I don’t think they have any problem selling their other pedals, which are also great/usable/musical. I think they just can’t find the parts for the KOT so they periodically sell all their available stock, same as they sold out on NKT red and white dot Sun Faces and sold out on Dark Peppermint fuzzes. I’m always happy to give my custom to an American small business, even if I have to wait a few weeks for the workbenches to get clear.

 

[franko5150]

This is what happens to any company or person whose most popular product has a wait list of 7 years or some other ridiculous number. He can't sell enough of his other pedals to make enough money to hire more employees and more parts to clear the backlog. Poor business model in my opinion.

Yep. It's someone so stuck on his ways he'd rather die than adapt.

 

[corpse]

Unfortunate but true.
I lived in CT for ten years and that's all i am going to say about that.

 

[Mr. Papa]

Yep. It's someone so stuck on his ways he'd rather die than adapt.

It's amusing to see this comment on a site where we celebrate a 70 year old guitar design that is fundamentally unchanged. One man's trash...

KOT and POT come with the internal trimpot all the way down. Turning it up not only increases the presence/treble, but in my opinion, changes the character of the gain and depth of the drive. Bumping the internal pot up clockwise 1/3-turn (for me at least) completely transformed the character of this thing.

Thank you for sharing this, I tried it with a POT and it definitely brought it closer to KOT territory. Not 100% the same, but neither better nor worse.

 

[franko5150]

It's amusing to see this comment on a site where we celebrate a 70 year old guitar design that is fundamentally unchanged. One man's trash...


Thank you for sharing this, I tried it with a POT and it definitely brought it closer to KOT territory. Not 100% the same, but neither better nor worse.

I'm NOT talking about his product. His product is not the problem. His problem is his inability to produce and deliver the product in a timely and efficient manner. Fender & Gibson don't have that problem regardless of the quality of their problem.

 

[Athos]

Soooo…. If I want a treble booster, should I go for a Beano Boost or a Fulltone Ranger?

Serious question, since I’ve had Fulltone stuff before but never an Analog Man product, but it looks like he’s still taking orders.

 

[Mr. Papa]

Soooo…. If I want a treble booster, should I go for a Beano Boost or a Fulltone Ranger?

Serious question, since I’ve had Fulltone stuff before but never an Analog Man product, but it looks like he’s still taking orders.

I've had both and now have the ThroBak stRange Master, which I like better. Maybe the best one I ever had in my memory was a Keeley with OC44 transistor, but I don't think those are easy to find anymore.
Also the Tru-Fi rangemaster was pretty cool. But the Beano is the smallest form factor by far, and they all do about the same thing.

 

[Athos]

Seeing the name "ThroBak" I expected it to be expensive, and when I went to their website to see, sure enough! $369, ouch. But I do like the externally adjustable bias and switchable germanium/silicon diodes. I'm going to build this basic €60 RM kit I ordered first, and see what I like and don't like about it, before trying something so pricy.

 

[Mr. Papa]

I'm NOT talking about his product. His product is not the problem. His problem is his inability to produce and deliver the product in a timely and efficient manner. Fender & Gibson don't have that problem regardless of the quality of their problem.

Thank you, I concede that I could have been more judicious in my comment, and I hope I didn’t offend you.
I’m going to hold with the point that as a business owner he can choose to stay small. Gibson may have grown with demand but their product quality has been lacking recently. Same thing with PRS. Fender is currently on the upswing but has had their own problems, same with Martin.
If Mike wants to keep the company to a size he wants to manage, isn’t that his decision? I don’t know the guy, maybe some of you do, so I’m not understanding where all the vitriol is coming from. I’ve found them to be fairly helpful and pleasant to deal with over the years.

 

[Amp360]

Gibson may have grown with demand but their product quality has been lacking recently. Same thing with PRS. Fender is currently on the upswing but has had their own problems, same with Martin.

I've had exactly the opposite experience. FMIC seems to be hard to find anything that doesn't feel toy-like. Four new Gibsons (Theodore, Jr., Special, SG) were all in tune (or close to it) and well set up out of the box. I think the Plek thing helps.

I think Gibson has been hitting it out of the park, especially when you see what a "Corona California" FMIC costs. Martin, don't get me started.

 

[jb_abides]

I've had exactly the opposite experience. FMIC seems to be hard to find anything that doesn't feel toy-like. Four new Gibsons (Theodore, Jr., Special, SG) were all in tune (or close to it) and well set up out of the box. I think the Plek thing helps.

I think Gibson has been hitting it out of the park, especially when you see what a "Corona California" FMIC costs. Martin, don't get me started.

I am pretty much in this camp.

 

[franko5150]

Thank you, I concede that I could have been more judicious in my comment, and I hope I didn’t offend you.
I’m going to hold with the point that as a business owner he can choose to stay small. Gibson may have grown with demand but their product quality has been lacking recently. Same thing with PRS. Fender is currently on the upswing but has had their own problems, same with Martin.
If Mike wants to keep the company to a size he wants to manage, isn’t that his decision? I don’t know the guy, maybe some of you do, so I’m not understanding where all the vitriol is coming from. I’ve found them to be fairly helpful and pleasant to deal with over the years.

No worries. Like I said, I'm extremely happy with my Duke of Tone. MXR doesn't seem to have any issue popping these off.

 

[Mr. Papa]

I’m glad to hear you folks have been having good experiences with new Gibson electrics. I’ll have to go try again, I’ve been considering another SG. My recent experiences with reissue series electrics were discouraging but perhaps they’ve figured it out.

 

[Subliminal lanimilbuS]

I think most of the mass production builders are having QC problems. I can't even begin to count the issues I have read in several forums. I was just recently reading a thread where someone got a Gibson SG with a major problem. With the bridge lowered as low as it can go the action is still way to high. That would freak the crap out of me if I got a new guitar like that.

 

[gary buff]

I think most of the mass production builders are having QC problems. I can't even begin to count the issues I have read in several forums. I was just recently reading a thread where someone got a Gibson SG with a major problem. With the bridge lowered as low as it can go the action is still way to high. That would freak the crap out of me if I got a new guitar like that.

Hmm, a neck set needed on a brand-new guitar....

 

[Amp360]

I’m glad to hear you folks have been having good experiences with new Gibson electrics. I’ll have to go try again, I’ve been considering another SG. My recent experiences with reissue series electrics were discouraging but perhaps they’ve figured it out.

I got this one last week. I really like it.