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mavmus

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The Franks sold the guitar to Al Parish.

Al Parish never got the guitar due to his prosecution over a ponzi-scheme he had been running.

Phil W auctioned the guitar on behalf of the courts to a new owner. The identity of the new owner has not been divulged in this thread.

Correct so far?

almost, 99.9% right, although the guitar sat in my safe for 18months after the sale, it was the Al Parish case that brought the SEC to my door for assistance in finding the guitar, I said "it's right there 5 feet from your left foot", wished I had a camera
 

mavmus

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The "Hendrix" Strat.

I presume the guitar didn't go to Parish because the liquidator took legal possession of it post the arrest and subsequent court orders. It appears that Phil then sold it, before the liquidators auction, with the sale proceeds going to the liquidator for distribution to the claimants.

The interesting element is that Phil says Parish bought if from the Franks.

The operative question then becomes one of who acted as agent in purchasing the guitar on behalf of the Franks? It may have been the Franks' money that funded the purchase, but somebody acted as their purchase agent and somebody authenticated it as a Hendrix instrument pre-purchase?

One can only guess as to who that might have been.

John,it is very unlike you to be so wide of the mark,

you're quite wrong, the liquidator wasn't involved for 18 months post sale, it sat in my safe because a certain someone had the cash & a certain someone else didn't care

I did sell the guitar pre-auction, you would never believe who the buyer was!

my lawsuit proved that Franks sold the guitar, I did not, the agent you refer to lives in Malibu, yes I do know them, no, I will not divulge the name, extremely well known though,it was a line of credit that funded the guitar, secured on a specific property

if your leading question is pointed at me you would be mistaken, understandable given your bent but quite wrong
 

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"He didn't try to buy it, he did buy it".

AP bought the guitar and remitted funds. Those funds were "not his" as they were part of the proceeds of the Ponzi scheme.

"he did buy it he just never received the guitar because I had it in my safe"

Ponzi scheme went tits-up, likely AP's assets frozen by court order. ergo it stays in the safe.

"he bought it from the alleged "owner" of the Peter Green Les Paul".

Phil being "cute". Legal transfer would be from Franks' to AP, as the Franks' were the legal owner of the guitar only they had the power to sell it. PW likely acted as agent and arranger (and, perhaps, authenticator) in the sale for a share of any profits achieved. I'd be surprised if Franks ever had more than a cursory glance at the guitar.


Franks received the guitar from Malibu via Brinks, he had the guitar for three months, I collected it after that, complete with provenance….allegedly!
 

mavmus

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Correct, in relation to that thrown towards Eric E.


You have to love a quote out of context.


on the contrary, you are the king of that, it is your MO, 95% of your posts are out of context, I understand, it gets the crowd baying,

open invitation to you John, you do not know me, we have never done business, you're operating on 8 yr old 3rd hand information given to you by Eric Ernest who in turn received it from the biggest liar in the universe (that would be Melvyn franks) I am in London in a few days, I make a point of taking time at the Harrods oyster bar just over the road from where you live, take an hour to sit down with me, I'll tell you all I know from day one up to & including the current status of THE "CUSTODIANSHIP", I offered the same to EE in 2008, he accepted then failed to show, Franks could not afford that conversation the same way that he couldn't afford my conversation with Bernie O'Conner, i'll even explain you the BOC connection
 

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Nobody could follow this saga... The posts above seem to be referring to the two different guitars (Hendrix strat and Greeny)... But which post applies to which guitar is anyone's guess...
 
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you would never believe who the buyer was!

hard for me to believe. the original 60's custom color strats i've sold john mayer (firemist gold...and stuff like that) have all been very cool straight guitars. i probably just have bad info here, as to the buyer of the fake hendrix sunburst strat.
 
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I make a point of taking time at the Harrods oyster bar just over the road from where you live, take an hour to sit down with me, I'll tell you all I know from day one up to & including the current status of THE "CUSTODIANSHIP",

Why not take an hour and post here on the LPF all you know from day one up to & including the current status of THE "CUSTODIANSHIP". That is the topic of this thread after all, not this other stuff about Al and this Jimi character, who the f@#k is he anyway?:eek:h
 

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Phil's buying oysters & champers for the whole gang at Harrod's! $13,000 worth! Duty & VAT free so load up!
 

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on the contrary, you are the king of that, it is your MO, 95% of your posts are out of context, I understand, it gets the crowd baying,

How in the world could anyone take what you say "out of context"? Brother, just where is the context in your sly, I know so much more than you postings and furious spinning?

I don't know you, but I know lie spoutin con man speak when I hear it. Why anyone would choose to buy anything from you or associated with you is beyond me. I've read enough. I get it, good Lord I get it. Way too many shenannigans attached to your dealings and way too much BULLSHIT explainations and sorry ass excuses blaming everyone else. Your shit trail is all over the web and it is apparent just what kind of charcter you are.

By the by old bean, YOU AIN'T JAMES BOND!!
 

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Back in 80's...when the seeds were planted for me to pursue vintage guitars as my profession, I never dreamed it would become what it has.

The concept of "guitars as investments' has probably been the one single factor that has screwed things up the most.

That is what attracted the sharks.

Almost every facet of my job, finding cool gear, visiting awe inspiring shops like Southworth's, meeting other folks that LOVE guitars, has been replaced with other unfulfilling, unwanted, time wasting crap....like sitting at the computer looking or reading about guitars.

Maybe I just need to go plug in.

Wait....

So you actually PLAY guitar, Eric?



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How in the world could anyone take what you say "out of context"? Brother, just where is the context in your sly, I know so much more than you postings and furious spinning?

I don't know you, but I know lie spoutin con man speak when I hear it. Why anyone would choose to buy anything from you or associated with you is beyond me. I've read enough. I get it, good Lord I get it. Way too many shenannigans attached to your dealings and way too much BULLSHIT explainations and sorry ass excuses blaming everyone else. Your shit trail is all over the web and it is apparent just what kind of charcter you are.

you go girlfriend. hope you're feelin' better, al. fuck this fruitcake-crookasscrook. it is a miricle that anybody would ever spend a dime with this charlatan... "A charlatan (also called swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, or other ..."
 
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While I have issues digesting some of the posts that Mavmus has graced this thread with I will say that the name-calling and other insults hurled at him are really not helping this thread one bit. First let's stop refering to this clusterf@#k with the "other" guitars in this thread. It just confuses the issue. Second, if you want to put Phil on trial here, at least adhere to some rules of civility.
 

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you go girlfriend. hope you're feelin' better, al. fuck this fruitcake-crookasscrook. it is a miricle that anybody would ever spend a dime with this charlatan... "A charlatan (also called swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, or other ..."

Love the handle. Are you a turtle fancier? I have a small herd.

This guy's toast. :## :## :##
 
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