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The new knobs etc look stupid on that aged guitar also the can checks dont look very good either.
Well I see MANY on these forums creaming in their pants over a Murphy and I’ve always been like Meh. A guitar will look good regardless. Gibson does an excellent job on painting and I’ve never seen a difference in them? I know Murphy leaves his initials in the checking. But otherwise can you tell? I can’t. And I def wouldn’t pay more for a Murphy. His paint schemes aren’t exactly original like an artist painting a certain picture. Gibson does a vintage cherry or lemon burst? Tom does same thing. End result? The SAME.The new knobs etc look stupid on that aged guitar also the can checks dont look very good either.
That makes absolutely no sense. Historics cost more than USA due to parts and build schemes. You didnt answer my question. He uses the same exact paint/clear as Gibson. What makes his so special? When I see his, theyre NO different than a regular historic...
Outside of his aging techniques. If you put one Paul side by side against a Murphy painted one, Can you ALWAYS tell the difference? And how? Cause basically its one painter vs another....
Air jordans yes I can see. Luxury products? Quality. They’re not Chinese built. Again my question isn’t answered. So it’s purely a marketing scheme correct? Tom Murphy. That’s what you’re paying for? Just a name? Got it! Thank you.You need to take an economics class. A marketing class would also help.
Do you think Air Jordans cost 10x the amount to construct them than a cheap pair of Nikes?
Do you think luxury cars cost of development is proportionally the same as cheaper cars?
etc.
What do these luxury products have in common? Significantly higher profit margin. It's why many companies have high end lines....they can charge ever increasing prices and drive ever increasing profits.
You'd be shocked to hear the cost to build an R9 (excluding the aging). It's alot lower than you think. And it's probably have a tad higher than the cost to build a USA LP.
Air jordans yes I can see. Luxury products? Quality. They’re not Chinese built. Again my question isn’t answered. So it’s purely a marketing scheme correct? Tom Murphy. That’s what you’re paying for? Just a name? Got it! Thank you.
It's no secret that I hold corporate Gibson in extremely low esteem. It's smoke and mirrors nonsense is comedic. My axe is already ground to dust on this matter - it's that repetitive I bore myself with it.Air jordans yes I can see. Luxury products? Quality. They’re not Chinese built. Again my question isn’t answered. So it’s purely a marketing scheme correct? Tom Murphy. That’s what you’re paying for? Just a name? Got it! Thank you.
Air jordans yes I can see. Luxury products? Quality. They’re not Chinese built. Again my question isn’t answered. So it’s purely a marketing scheme correct? Tom Murphy. That’s what you’re paying for? Just a name? Got it! Thank you.
Far from subliminal shading ,color Murphy's non aged early 90's were gorgeous Tom has a talent for painting , Although I can't pull the trigger on one I have tried over the years . I had cold feet last spring I was going to buy a Rossington North of 9000.00 I stopped my other Historic's are fine guitars I just could not justify the up charge . But once again Murphy has a strong vibe and I totally understand the lust !So whats so good about murphy to command $5000 more because he painted a guitar? Lets take his relic jobs out the equation for a second. Whats the difference between Murphy paint and Gibson paint? Im betting subliminal.
It's a product line by the master of aging - Tom Murphy . While not for everyone , it does offer a price point for a aged and painted instrument that are closer to vintage specs . Think of it this way , you want the look and feel of a vintage Sunburst Les Paul , but at the fraction of the price . That's it in a nutshell . More choices for the consumer . Also with the makeover folks out there , this gives the consumer the choice of having a purely built and aged instrument directly out of the Gibson Custom shop program . Win win for the consumer . Gibson Custom is knocking it out of the park in a major way !Air jordans yes I can see. Luxury products? Quality. They’re not Chinese built. Again my question isn’t answered. So it’s purely a marketing scheme correct? Tom Murphy. That’s what you’re paying for? Just a name? Got it! Thank you.
Thanks for clarifying. Aging I can see he does well. But apart from again he’s still using same nitro with plasticizers. Some of non Murphy R9s looks as good in my opinion. I just don’t think a non aged Murphy is worth anymore. But many feel it is. And that’s fIneIt's a product line by the master of aging - Tom Murphy . While not for everyone , it does offer a price point for a aged and painted instrument that are closer to vintage specs . Think of it this way , you want the look and feel of a vintage Sunburst Les Paul , but at the fraction of the price . That's it in a nutshell . More choices for the consumer . Also with the makeover folks out there , this gives the consumer the choice of having a purely built and aged instrument directly out of the Gibson Custom shop program . Win win for the consumer . Gibson Custom is knocking it out of the park in a major way !
Yes upwards of a $1000 extra! As well as cluttering up their custom shop page https://www.gibson.com/Custom-ShopSo are the pre-Murphy lab, Tom Murphy aged guitars going to go to even crazier prices?
Yes upwards of a $1000 extra! As well as cluttering up their custom shop page https://www.gibson.com/Custom-Shop
I was ready to pull the trigger on a Murphy Lab At Wildwood because the color and flame were beautiful. But that broken glass. checking. Wtf!
I noticed all the different colours and I guess they are excited about their new range but what would be wrong with eg: "Les Paul '59 reissue available in 4 colours" just like the rest of their range where you then click on it and check out the different schemes available?The cluttering of the site appears to be a function of breaking out every color as much as anything. I’d imagine their webmaster will eventually get hip to coalescing not only colors, but aging degree, into some menu or link-driven feature in each product page (as they were w/ color on the pre-Lab Historics).
To the point of “[an amount] extra,” I’d be curious how many purchasers bought one b/c of Murphy’s name and/or handiwork, and how many were more like myself, where they liked everything else about the instrument enough that they weren’t put off by the up charge for something they didn’t care about.
Generally speaking, usually when businesses identify that a feature isn’t actually a selling point, they strike it, lower price, in the interest of aggressively pursuing market share. Alas, this is as textbook a marketplace.
I hear you and the beauty part for the consumer is the choices . I have always loved the gloss finish on my R9's and R8's . I wouldn't get to caught up in the plasticizers issue as the finish is thin and the wood breathes plenty and you can feel it in your hands as the wood vibrates and sings and sustains like crazy -honest !!!!!!!! Don't believe me , take one for a test drive in your local shop in your neck of the woods .Thanks for clarifying. Aging I can see he does well. But apart from again he’s still using same nitro with plasticizers. Some of non Murphy R9s looks as good in my opinion. I just don’t think a non aged Murphy is worth anymore. But many feel it is. And that’s fIne