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1960 Gibson Korina Explorer 011172 " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

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J.D.

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

John is now a fraud, eh?

Big Hurt, you're like school in summertime...
 

Tom Wittrock

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

I want to clarify my position here. Some have said [on and off the web] that I am supporting this guitar as being the real deal.
I am, in no way saying or meaning that I think, in my opinion, that it is real. I am not saying either way, mainly because I am not an expert, and I have virtually no Korina experience beyond Gibson steel guitars [and my recent JG Dotmaster].
I have seen statements I do not agree with and have tried to make my points, but I am a poor wordsmith.
I know far too many of the characters in this thread and many of those who aren't members. I know whose opinions I trust, but I am not making a statement about whether this guitar is real or not.

I do feel it would be better not handled the way it has been here. Too much childish BS mixed with attempts at seriousness.
Good luck to most readers to make sense of what has been written here.

And finally, I wish I had my stolen Explorer back, just to have a few people mentioned to figure out if it was a real one. Gone almost 30 years, I will likely never know.
Think I'll stick with Les Pauls. :salude
 

ultra

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

You don't really want to drop Michael Stevens into this mire, do you?

or you get michael stevens to look it over.
 

Luke Gibson

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

You don't really want to drop Michael Stevens into this mire, do you?

Honestly don't see why anyone would want to do that....
 

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

my single point was that nobody knows original korina explorers (and vs) better than michael.

You don't really want to drop Michael Stevens into this mire, do you?
 

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer 011172 " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

Truth be told.., there are about a dozen people in the world who buy stuff of this magnitude. About half of them are name checked or are directly involved with this thread. Yet the guitar is on EBAY. Tells ya what you need to know about the guitar right there. Type in caps.... Shout or play dumb. Mr Gruhn got it right a year ago.
Joe B

PS .. Clive don't make me pull Amos apart to show you what the red really looks like on a real Korina guitar under the black rings. Cause frankly, it is too busy being played every night to deal with this BS.
 
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Big Hern

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer 011172 " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

Truth be told.., there are about a dozen people in the world who buy stuff of this magnitude. About half of them are name checked or are directly involved with this thread. Yet the guitar is on EBAY. Tells ya what you need to know about the guitar right there. Type in caps.... Shout or play dumb. Mr Gruhn got it right a year ago.
Joe B

PS .. Clive don't make me pull Amos apart to show you what the red really looks like on a real Korina guitar under the black rings. Cause frankly, it is too busy being played every night to deal with this BS.

Wow Joe, man. I put it on eBay... That's my gig... I'm just hamming it up... No harm done... BH
 

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U told me some kid was gonna look at it. Some kid had looked at it and some kid was gonna call me to no avail. Don't puss out now. You were the big shot before. Don't let us down. All show and no go make John a fraud, so man up... As you you're looking pretty whimpy in the U.S.A...!

What bit of "IT'S UP TO YOU TO CALL HIM, I TOLD HIM YOU WANTED TO TALK AND HE'LL TAKE YOUR CALL" don't you get? That line hasn't changed, no matter how many times you type some fantasy version of events. We talked twice on the phone, 46 minutes the last time (on my coin), and this is what you got both times. Ditto via numerous texts.

You didn't ask me for his cell number (which I wouldn't have shared), but pressed me for the number of a UK member here because he'd posted about the guitar and said some funny shit. Priorities man!

Here's a wheeze. Let's create an authentication scenario so bizarre that it could never happen. Rather than seeking quiet counsel from the genuinely knowledgable korina guys, as would have been easy and has been advised, let's instead invite a cast of thousands knowing it won't happen, then we can blame "them". While we're at it, we may as well tell them to pay their own way. Then you suggest I pay Richard's flight. You invite a bunch of people to Long Island to compare guitars, but won't call the guy who owns the guitars. You'll be charging for entry next, come see the bearded lady.

Before this grand scheme, you said everybody was going up to Joe B's place to do the same thing. What happened? Did Joe know about that plan?

As for "pussing out", I've told you I'll come, for shits and giggles. Won't mean anything in the greater scheme of things as I've told you on here and on the phone I don't know these guitars from a hole in my ass. Remember, I'll need a flight and a hotel (pre-paid, irrevocable and I don't travel coach).

Me a fraud? Fraud is as fraud does Hernia. I'm a clean skin. Not in the business, don't need to be, don't want to be.

I don't have anything more to add to this freak show, so no more posts from Little Marco. I can't even be bothered asking Clive the obvious question, I guess it has an all too obvious answer.

Lose my number Hern, you'll just be wasting your money. If you bought the guitar for real money, then I honestly hope this turns out well for you. If it does, I'll be the first to send you a case of aged single malt.
 
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richard henry

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer 011172 " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

Ok, here's what needs to happen. Myself & K.K.K., John, Richard, Max, Rick, Joe, Clive, Graham, Sean, Albert, Gil, Scott, Tom fly to meet Perry in N.Y. at his discretion to pull just a few out to match up and let the cards lay as they may. I've talked to Clive & Graham and they are willing to fly to N.Y. to meet John and have Perry ID. this guitar as John has said Perry's seen it and matched it up to the many that Perry owns. Now, this will put it to bed... Does all agree? Say yay or nay? Sorry Charlie, you can come and bring your fellow Explorer mate... CHARLIE, PLEASE LEAVE THIS UP FOR A SPELL SO EVERYBODY GETS THE GIST... Big Hern 619-988-9777

No, what needs to happen is for you to KEEP ME OUT OF THIS. Are you dull of reading too? And do you really think Perry would be in the same room as Clive and Max with his guitars? :rofl

How about this, why don't you come up with a reasonable and realistic idea. At the end of the day, IF it's not Graham's guitar, and IF Clive has no stake in it, and IF you have bought it for REAL money (as you are claiming, although some of your friends say otherwise), then you should be the one who goes. ALONE. It's got nothing to do with MAX, CLIVE. GRAHAM, RICK, SEAN, or SCOTT. It's your guitar, your ass, your reputation.

If YOU own the guitar, and you are selling the guitar then the RESPONSIBILITY is on you to KNOW what that thing is. Not rely on the word of others. That's putting the responsibility on others. And it's exactly what MUSIC GROUND did with Peter. "Oh sorry Peter, we didn't know it was a fake? Clive said it was real? Bharat said it was real? Johan said it was real? You were happy? What changed? Who slagged the guitar off? It's just jealousy.........repeat BS to fade........"

And for the record, Music Ground went into voluntary liquidation before Peter could sue them.

See the pattern?

And that's my FINAL WORD.
 
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CDaughtry

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Re: 1960 Gibson Korina Explorer 011172 " Kandye Kane " Guitars West Owned on ebay

Ok...I gave everyone 24 hours notice that this thing was coming to an end. I gave everyone a chance to say your final piece if you wanted to and many of you took advantage of that opportunity, so now we're done.:jim
 
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