50th Anniversary SG 24-fret w/ small pickguard

[MRTONEMAN]

An interesting SG ... 50th Anniversary 24-fret w/ small pickguard.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-50th-Anniversary-SG-Standard-24-Electric-Guitar?sku=H71160

 

['s mel gibson]

Hmmm-wow!

 

[DanD]

First model in a "Limited" run of 50th SGs.

Supposed to be a Gibson USA Robby Krieger signature model too.

I'm hoping for the Standard 24 (w/the larger Standard SG neck carve) in Vintage White or Sapphire Blue.

We'll see what the next few months bring. :2zone

 

[Elliot Easton]

I just don't like the way the 24 fret necks move the neck pup down away from being under the 2nd octave harmonic. I really feel this adds chime on the 22 fret necks. i'd rather have 2 less frets and maintain the magic tone.

 

[markwayne]

An interesting SG ... 50th Anniversary 24-fret w/ small pickguard.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...ary-SG-Standard-24-Electric-Guitar?sku=H71160

Give that an ebony board and anything other than black and I'm in for one.

I've heard the 2 octave harmonic issue raised by many, many people over the years. I guess it's just never been my experience. I've actually always felt the reverse: the closer in the neck (or second pickup) is brought, the more complementary the two signals become. I've always felt that the standard, Gibson, neck pickup position tends to produce muddy tones due to the increased amplitude at that harmonic. That's like the second, loudest spot along a string's length. Therefore, mixing the two, for me, requires careful balancing. And there is no way I can achieve it without separate volume and tone controls for each pickup. Of course, that's just me and it may be that I just prefer snap over chime. (If that makes any sense.) In fact, one of my favorite clean tones is the bridge and middle pickup on a 3 pickup SG Custom. I get a wonderful, Strat on steroids tone with that combination.

But, hey, if we all heard things the same way, it would be a boring world.
Wayne

 

[Tele52]

I sure hope they do more than just this one for the 50th. This one really doesn't appeal to me.

 

[johnny73]

I believe they are supposed to make a limited model every month.

Elliot,
It doesn't matter to us lefties, as this model isn't available in left hand. As far the the 24th harmonic thing, from the pics, it looks like the neck PU is actually in the usual SG position.

 

[StSpider]

As far the the 24th harmonic thing, from the pics, it looks like the neck PU is actually in the usual SG position.

+ 1.

I wouldn't move the neck pickup on a Les Paul, but on an SG, where the neck pickup is already far from where the 24th fret would be, it makes sense to have 2 more frets rather than a piece of plastic IMO. Even the more so since an SG is so easy to play in the upper register.

I don't think the neck pickup on this model was moved from the usual SG position at all..

 

[Cream Fan]

The neck pickup on a 22-fret SG is already off the nodal point. That's why the woman tone on an LP sounds more flutey than one on an SG. Now, I love the woman tone on both my SGs, but the woman tone on my Les Paul kills them both.

 

[Kris Ford]

The neck pickup on a 22-fret SG is already off the nodal point. That's why the woman tone on an LP sounds more flutey than one on an SG. Now, I love the woman tone on both my SGs, but the woman tone on my Les Paul kills them both.

Good point. I wonder how that translates to the '70's SGs that had the Neck PUP against the board like a Les...:hmm

 

[DanD]

I've often wondered why Gibson doesn't space the SG pups the same as an LP and move the 22d fret up to the pup and back the bridge pup and bridge up the same amount.

Would help to make SGs less neck heavy and give them a sturdier neck joint which extends deeper into the body.

May impede access to the 19th to 22d fret somewhat, but I'd work around it for the stronger neck joint. Still be better access than an LP. :hmm

 

[johnny73]

I think it's a mute point. I really don't think it changes the tone that much being back 1/2" back, but it allows a much stronger neck joint. Then again, I spend 80-90% on the bridge PU and the rest of the time as mix between the bridge and neck.

Plus, who wants an SG to sound like more like a LP? If you want LP tone, play a LP.

 

[DanD]

Plus, who wants an SG to sound like more like a LP? If you want LP tone, play a LP.

Weight and upper fret access is better on the SG. Even with the pups moved a bit I doubt the SG would mimic the LP tonally.

 

[johnny73]

Exactly, enjoy the SG for the qualities it does have. Personally, the LP is far from my favorite Gibson.