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`69 LPC binding ?

neuroy

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Hello,

I was asked to replace about 2 inches of binding on a `69 LPC.

I need to get the right material in time, because the customer does not want to part with the guitar for longer then one week.

So my question is : is the LP Custom binding celluloid or is it Royalite / ABS also ?
Which thickness do I need to recreate the binding ?

Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Cheers
 

FlyingFred67

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Think it should be ABS. You mean vertical Body Binding thickness of the 5 ply or the cutaway thickness?
 

moonweasel

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Wish I could help you with the material, but I am just not good with plastics. I know my a couple of the fragments of my damaged neck binding crumbled into dust; I don't know any plastic which does that.
 

neuroy

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@moonweasel :

this could mean it´s celluloid . Even in the 50´s neck binding was celluloid, body binding was ABS. ( For LP standard . I don´t know about the binding on Customs. )

But you have acces to some late 60´s, perhaps you could check ? Just take a tiny piece of sand paper, very fine grit, and stroke two or three times over the binding. Somewhere it´s no more covered by laquer. Like this it will not be visible. And it does not affect the binding, using fine paper is more polishing the surface than sanding. Go slowly.
And then the important test : Smelling on your sand paper would give you a taste of campher/ mentol when it´s celluloid. Beeing ABS you do not smell anything, perhaps a very light tase of plastic.

Thank you very much.
Cheers
 

moonweasel

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Sorry man. Not happening. There is a lot I will do for my site and LPF readings, but I'm not sanding my guitar. :) Couldn't you just do that yourself on the remaining binding on your clients guitar? Just a thought.
 
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neuroy

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Of course.

He will send the guitar just in time I can do the repair, so I want to buy the material in advance. Celluloid is not available here, it would take about two to four weeks to get it after I would have checked the remaing parts.

As he is not a skilled person, I would not advice him to do something I´m not sure he will do it correct. In the end I would be responsible for a mistake.

I just hoped some forum brother would know the facts about the old material.

I did not want you to destroy your guitar, I just wanted to give you a simple, and if done the right way, not detectable or visible method to tell ABS from celluloid. Just an advice.

But perhaps somebody could tell me the measurements of the layers. I will try to get celluloid as well as ABS , so I can deal with both options.

Thank you
Cheers
 
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