• Guys, we've spent considerable money converting the Les Paul Forum to this new XenForo platform, and we have ongoing monthly operating expenses. THE "DONATIONS" TAB IS NOW WORKING, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY DONATIONS YOU CAN MAKE TO KEEP THE LES PAUL FORUM GOING! Thank you!

Antiquity's or Holmes?

howardslespaul

New member
Joined
Jul 16, 2001
Messages
1,635
I have a '99 R9 plaintop. The tone I'm lookin' for (out of the guitar) is a Duane/Dickey thing. It seems like maybe a lower output pup's with nice highs & not alot of mid-range bark. So I'm lookin' to change the pots, the caps, & the pup's. Right now with my tone knobs full tilt I'm pretty flat. Any suggestions?
I'll need to know where to purchase also..........thanks guys!
 
Last edited:

howardslespaul

New member
Joined
Jul 16, 2001
Messages
1,635
Has this been covered so many times that by even asking, fury begins to
arise?..............anybody?
 

Ed Rafalko

Les Paul Forum Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
6,287
The Holmes pickups are really somewhat harsh, but they're my preference- even though I don't use them in anything any more. I'm currently using a Seth Lover in teh neck, which is basically an Antiquity with a non-aged magnet. I like it fine.
 

omarxx

New member
Joined
Jul 16, 2001
Messages
266
Tom Holmes pickups

I have a pair of Holmes in my R9 and I really like them. I liked the '57 Classics but wanted to see if I could get any closer to my idea of the original PAF tone and I think I did. I like these much better than the '57 Classics. I've never tried Antiquities.
 

Big Al

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
14,244
did you keep the Holmes or go back to the 57s ???
Really, Stumpy??? That was 20 yrs ago. I haven't seen any of these guys around in years.

If you want an opinion, I own both, it's preference. The Holmes are stronger and more focused than the Antiqities. Beefy and bold version of paf, very nice. The Antiquities have that hollow, woody thing and a clarity that is expressive and complex. I always come back to them and are what I prefer. I have several sets of double creams from the latter 90's that I've had that just sound right too me. I like my Holmes alot too. They push a tube amp in just the right way, you know. I like them with Marshalls.
 

peeninety

Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2002
Messages
286
My Number One is an R4 with my preferred P90s, but I've got an R8 with Antiquities and a '61 335 with Tom Homes that I also dearly love.
 

Señor Verde

Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2005
Messages
509
As has been stated in other threads, I think it depends on the guitar. My R7 and R8 sound very different and I have different brands of pickups in them to get them in a similar but different ballpark, sound-wise. I'd start with something on the less expensive end and if you like them, great. If you don't like them you'll have a reference point for looking at something that will get you where you want to be.
 

ultra

Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2001
Messages
948
Holmes are my favourite hum buckers. I put Holmes H450/H455 in my 1999 R9 but didn't like them in that guitar and finally settled on Peter Florance Voodoo 59s.

I have Holmes in my other humbucker guitars. Some Antiquities as well. There are some pickups that are just not right for some guitars, no matter how you try to justify it
 

Sol

Active member
Joined
Oct 26, 2001
Messages
578
There's a particular open-air concert as Dicky Betts opens with the intro chords to Jessica on the neck pup of his Goldtop.
It has the same clarity as my low output neck PAF type humbucker at 7.4K ohms.
I don't remember him using the bridge, so I can't comment but his neck PAF is a lower output type if this is of help to you.
 

stumphead

Active member
Joined
Dec 12, 2018
Messages
176
Really, Stumpy??? That was 20 yrs ago. I haven't seen any of these guys around in years.

If you want an opinion, I own both, it's preference. The Holmes are stronger and more focused than the Antiqities. Beefy and bold version of paf, very nice. The Antiquities have that hollow, woody thing and a clarity that is expressive and complex. I always come back to them and are what I prefer. I have several sets of double creams from the latter 90's that I've had that just sound right too me. I like my Holmes alot too. They push a tube amp in just the right way, you know. I like them with Marshalls.

I resurrected an ancient thread from the dead on purpose - thought it would give an interesting perspective on how even back 2 decades ago everyone including yourself was swapping pups

begs the question how much closer we are to the sound of a PAF now ....

"It was 20 years ago today
Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play
They've been going in and out of style
But they're guaranteed to raise a smile
So may I introduce to you
The act you've know for all these years
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ............"


 
Top