BEANO ALERT !!! New Unseen Beano + Clapton Photos :)

[sws1]

Different strokes I guess, I think its the absolute top of the mountain for guitar tones.

I wouldn't even put in to the top 50 of my favs, but I wasn't around when this was new. Context is everything, I suppose.

I would take Bloomfield's tone over this 8 days a week (referencing something else from that era)

 

[MarcB]

Just gonna throw this in the pile ..
but back in the day.. when pickups were very hot and bright.. engineers would ask for the tone to be turned down on the guitar and the tone raised on the amp.. to eliminate the harshness and bite of the pickups..and not to overload the microphone.. maybe Clapton was experimenting with this .. as Marshall’s were (are) notoriously bright.. (with tone on guitar at 10) and given EC was maxing the amp to get breakup.. this may have been the origin of the “woman tone”.

 

[goldtop0]

Just gonna throw this in the pile ..
but back in the day.. when pickups were very hot and bright.. engineers would ask for the tone to be turned down on the guitar and the tone raised on the amp.. to eliminate the harshness and bite of the pickups..and not to overload the microphone.. maybe Clapton was experimenting with this .. as Marshall’s were (are) notoriously bright.. (with tone on guitar at 10) and given EC was maxing the amp to get breakup.. this may have been the origin of the “woman tone”.

For sure it was a very experimental time '65/66, the different tones EC had on Fresh Cream compared to the Beano album and on tracks like Lonely Years and Bernard Jenkins, trying to get the engineers to play ball at Decca studios.

 

[bern1]

Wow! Had to google that!
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[bern1]

I find the whole Beano tone shockingly bad.

YMMV

Well, that was a long time ago and EC doesn't play with that tone any longer and neither do most of the rest of us. Improvements keep on coming! (I do admit to playing a sunburst Les Paul through a dimed JTM45 a few times.....)

However, I do love the fierce playing on that record. One of the things that this recording did imo, was establish the electric guitar as an instrument that was able to play a series of sustained single notes in a manner similar to a violin or a saxophone. I don't recall any earlier examples and I think credit is due to Clapton for "inventing" it. This may or may not have been one of Clapton's objectives in turning up the volume.

 

[Redhod]

We should all remove our hats at the memory of John Mayall. People I know who worked with him said he was the best. All due respect, then, I never got the fever for the Beano album. It just seemed like a bunch of covers. Their version of "All Your Love," for instance, was rremarkably close to Otis Rush's 1958 original.
I was just too deep in another album made that summer in 1966, Paul Butterfield's "East West," in which Mike Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop really hit the note and went to much farther places.
It has to be remembered, though, that in those vinyl days bands were still just knocking out LPs quickly and you could snap 'em up for $2.50 at Sears. They weren't making Historical Documents. They weren't all "Sgt. Pepper." For all I know Mayall said hey, we got a day or two of studio time, let's bang out something. The fact that the album went on to inspire folks, well, that's a good thing.

 

[S. Weiger]

We should all remove our hats at the memory of John Mayall. People I know who worked with all said he was the best. All due respect, then, I never got the fever for the Beano album. It just seemed like a bunch of covers. Their version of "All Your Love," for instance, was rremarkably close to Otis Rush's 1958 original.
I was just too deep in another album made that summer in 1966, Paul Butterfield's "East West," in which Mike Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop really hit the note and went to much farther places.
It has to be remembered, though, that in those vinyl days bands were still just knocking out LPs quickly and you could snap 'em up for $2.50 at Sears. They weren't making Historical Documents. They weren't all "Sgt. Pepper." For all I know Mayall said hey, we got a day or two of studio time, let's bang out something. The fact that the album went on to inspire folks, well, that's a good thing.

Thanks for your insightful post. I can't imagine what it must feel like now, to have been right in the middle of important music history. But at the time you guys weren't aware of that o.c.

 

[bern1]

Thanks for your insightful post. I can't imagine what it must feel like now, to have been right in the middle of important music history. But at the time you guys weren't aware of that o.c.

Defining music history is of course a broad subject. Some, maybe many? of us were actually very aware of the significance of some of the music and artists in the 60’s and early 70’s while it was happening. Life was changing quickly and we were part of the change. Things were still fairly primitive and there were not as many artists and albums as there are today. Then again, there were not as many people on the planet as there are now.

Things were different then, as we always notice when time passes. There are surely many important artistic events and change happening right now if one tunes in to them.

 

[goldtop0]

The change up for all British popular music was the Beatles music being released by Capitol in the States in late '63.
Us folk in the Commonwealth were part of all things from Britain so we were ahead of the game. Didn't get much in the way of black music from the US however back then, mind you, that wasn't happening in the States either.

 

[TM1]

I'll jump in here gary, Key To Love to me is the standout, the lead break he does at high volume is the LP/Marshall tone.

I bought a few sets of those back in 1970/71. They sounded great I thought on my ‘61 Melody Maker(loaded with T-Tops) through my brown Princeton with a 12” Cerwin-Vega ER-123 & pair of 6L6’s!

 

[TM1]

Anybody notice the Otis Rush guitar strap?

Yeah, noticed that decades ago!

 

[JPP-1]

While not EC and Beano, afaic, the tone here is pretty awesome. Btw, does anyone else have a hard time indetifying Clapton in some pictures. I don't think I could ever pick him out of a crowd. Whereas Jimmy or Jimi would be pretty easy

 

[F-Hole]

While not EC and Beano, afaic, the tone here is pretty awesome. Btw, does anyone else have a hard time indetifying Clapton in some pictures. I don't think I could ever pick him out of a crowd. Whereas Jimmy or Jimi would be pretty easy

Just for posterity, that amp is a fake.

 

[corpse]

JD makes it sound incredible here. One of my favorite all time clips.
“A ‘three-dude’ reissue”.

 

[JPP-1]

Just for posterity, that amp is a fake.

Really? Sounds great. Is there a story that goes a long with this?

 

[goldtop0]

Really? Sounds great. Is there a story that goes a long with this?

What do they say on that series The X Files, 'the truth is out there'.
These fugazi amps are too numerous unfortunately, be prepared for tales of woe and confusion.

 

[F-Hole]

Really? Sounds great. Is there a story that goes a long with this?

Yeah, there was a multi page thread on it here.........no argument that some of them sound good.

 

[lure555]

I was just too deep in another album made that summer in 1966, Paul Butterfield's "East West," in which Mike Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop really hit the note and went to much farther places.

I just recently clicked with this album. Bloomfield doesn't get enough credit. Though the English players maybe didn't hear it at the time, but the first Paul Butterfield album came out before "Beano." BTW, the Bloomfield biography "Guitar King" is incredible.

 

[goldtop0]

I just recently clicked with this album. Bloomfield doesn't get enough credit. Though the English players maybe didn't hear it at the time, but the first Paul Butterfield album came out before "Beano." BTW, the Bloomfield biography "Guitar King" is incredible.

He used the '59 LP at the same time however Beano heralded the LP/Marshall sound so folks reacted to that more so than Mike with the Butterfield band I think.
He was a great player and the band toured England in late '66, don't know if he used his LP during the tour but did see a pic of him using his '54 GT.

 

[MattD1960]

While not EC and Beano, afaic, the tone here is pretty awesome. Btw, does anyone else have a hard time indetifying Clapton in some pictures. I don't think I could ever pick him out of a crowd. Whereas Jimmy or Jimi would be pretty easy

i miss hearing JD play like this, what hes going now is also absolutely fantastic but the videos from this period hes just a british blues machine