aladdinsane
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Has anyone directly compared a real 1968 LPC to one of the reissues (2018-present)? I've always wanted a 68-69, but I was just wondering how the reissues compare.
Thanks, Lars! I had no idea the 14 degree angle was in production that long.From 1965 until the early eighties, 14 degree angle was standart on all the models I have knowledge on. I can´t say for certain that the weirdos, like Maruader and S-1 were the same. But all Les Paul certainly were 14 degrees. So yes, a 1968 should have a 14 degree headstock. However with Gibsons blatant disregard for correctness in reissues, I would check before buying, if it is important to you. I would personally prefer a 17 degree angle, like the fifties and the current guitars, whether it´s correct or not. With the 1968 reissue being introduced so long ago (Late eighties if I rember correctly), I would not be surprised if they´re not all the same.
The 1968 (And the next few years) didn´t have Schallers. They had Kluson wafflebacks. Some claim that the wafflebacks lasted all the way until 1975. I have however owned two 1974 Customs (20 th anniversary inlay is a sure sign it´s a 1974), that originally came with Schallers. All later 70s Customs I´ve seen had Schallers, so I believe that Schallers were standart from 1974 onwards. But I´ve seen earlier 70s Customs with Grover Rotomatics. The timeline clearly is, Kluson wafflebacks 1968-1972?) , Grover Rotomatic (1972?-1973?) and finally Schaller in 1974 and later.
I agree about the old wood has something special . To me it's more resonant , but I bet that wouldn't hold up in a court of law . Do you think there is any difference to the 14 degree headstock angle on tone ? Or any difference that we can actually feel and hear ? Or is it purely cosmetic ? I have wondered about this before and all I could think of was in between 1960 when the last of the Les Paul's were made and then when production began again in 1968 tooling and equipment probably changed and was probably the reason why ? Maybe ? Is there any noticeable difference in how the 1968 Les Paul's functioned ? I cannot hear a difference ? I can see it looking at the guitar when it is sitting on it's stand but that's it .build quality will be very similar. Pickups very similar. The T-Tops the originals came with are the same 7.6k-ish pickup that went all the way through the stamped base T-Tops from the mid 70s. Yes, the same pickups that everyone hates. I love them.
I am one of the cursed who loves the old wood feel that only comes from old wood. I had owned several 1968 standards, but never the custom. The old has something special. Most people can't feel it. Knowing that, the reissue '68s that i've played (none after about 2005) are excellent guitars.
I don't think the 3 degree angle difference affects tone that much.I agree about the old wood has something special . To me it's more resonant , but I bet that wouldn't hold up in a court of law . Do you think there is any difference to the 14 degree headstock angle on tone ? Or any difference that we can actually feel and hear ? Or is it purely cosmetic ? I have wondered about this before and all I could think of was in between 1960 when the last of the Les Paul's were made and then when production began again in 1968 tooling and equipment probably changed and was probably the reason why ? Maybe ? Is there any noticeable difference in how the 1968 Les Paul's functioned ? I cannot hear a difference ? I can see it looking at the guitar when it is sitting on it's stand but that's it .
Thanks for pointing that out, man!This is not correct.
The volute was added sometime in 1969, and the 14 degree headstock lasted until sometime in the early eighties. I´m not sure about the 1972 reissue of the 1958 (Which was actually a 1954 Goldtop!), or the 1954 Custom reissue they made around the same time. But all ordinary Deluxe, Standarts and Customs had the 14 degree headstock all the way theough the seventies.
Take if easy, brother.Really?. Then why did you give me a like in post # 6 ?.