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Greeny

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Just to add a bit of context; Metallica are good people.

End of.



Lars Ulrich told Robert Trujillo that Metallica wanted him to be "a real member of this band, not just a hired hand" on Feb. 24, 2003. To make good on that, Ulrich added: "We’d like to offer you, to show you how serious we are, offer you a million dollars to join our band right now.”

With that, Trujillo became the band’s third – and now longest-serving – bass player. It had been a grueling experience for the former Ozzy Osbourne, Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves member, because not only did he have to endure a series of high-profile auditions, he was being filmed while he did it.






 

S. Weiger

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Carving initials in this guitar is an act of vandalism.

Seriously unimpressed.
Yeah, it's way better to throw it in the trunk of a car, exposing it to a serious headstock & neck joint break,
I totally get that...
[End of irony]
 

thin sissy

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Just to add a bit of context; Metallica are good people.

End of.



Lars Ulrich told Robert Trujillo that Metallica wanted him to be "a real member of this band, not just a hired hand" on Feb. 24, 2003. To make good on that, Ulrich added: "We’d like to offer you, to show you how serious we are, offer you a million dollars to join our band right now.”

With that, Trujillo became the band’s third – and now longest-serving – bass player. It had been a grueling experience for the former Ozzy Osbourne, Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves member, because not only did he have to endure a series of high-profile auditions, he was being filmed while he did it.






Seeing how they treated Jason, I'm glad they are nicer to bass players these days.
 

William Payne

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Yeah the initials makes my skin crawl but I would have the same reaction if it was a brand new guitar and someone did that. It is like the frets in the back of Duane Allmans dark burst. I think that is major sacrilege as well.

But I also think all 50’s conversion bursts should be restored back into gold tops.
 

ourmaninthenorth

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Yeah, it's way better to throw it in the trunk of a car, exposing it to a serious headstock & neck joint break,
I totally get that...
[End of irony]
I have to concede your point; a wilful, embarrassing act of childish defacement is exactly the same thing.
 

F-Hole

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For a few years, Greeny was being passed around in very dubious circumstances between outright fraudsters and similar POS types (in both the US and UK). There's so much that's unwritten, but believe me when I say that it was a cesspit.

You may not be fully aware, but when Kirk bough it, literally nobody was putting their hand up to buy the guitar. Its condition is about as beat-to-shit as any 'burst on the planet, so if having a tiny set of initials engraved into the back is the price to pay for it being rescued and finding an appreciative home, being toured in front of large audiences and being openly shared without hesitation then, on balance, it's relatively insignificant in the greater scheme of things.

Lastly, Kirk is one of the nicest, most genuine and humble people you're likely to run into. A "prick" he most definitely is not. Trust me.
 

GreenBurst

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Carving initials in this guitar is an act of vandalism.

Seriously unimpressed.
Kirk is the next in the lineage of owners. He has a pass (right?) to do that. In the bigger picture of ownership it's his mark. I'm sure Gary would be OK with that. He owned it for 36 years. Whereas Peter had it for three years.

This mark differentiates it from the CC version. So it's all good and part of the storied history. It is awesome that we are all here to witness it. Unlike the history of the Stradivarius violins.
 

GreenBurst

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For a few years, Greeny was being passed around in very dubious circumstances between outright fraudsters and similar POS types (in both the US and UK). There's so much that's unwritten, but believe me when I say that it was a cesspit.

You may not be fully aware, but when Kirk bough it, literally nobody was putting their hand up to buy the guitar. Its condition is about as beat-to-shit as any 'burst on the planet, so if having a tiny set of initials engraved into the back is the price to pay for it being rescued and finding an appreciative home, being toured in front of large audiences and being openly shared without hesitation then, on balance, it's relatively insignificant in the greater scheme of things.

Lastly, Kirk is one of the nicest, most genuine and humble people you're likely to run into. A "prick" he most definitely is not. Trust me.
I held it and strummed it in 2007, at the Dallas Vintage Guitar Show. So, I know what you mean. But it was killer to do that and then go on to purchase a CC01 Aged in 2010. An awesome experience opportunity...
 

sws1

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Technically, his initials are on the back of the guitar. So it's not really a defacement, rather a debuttment.
 

ourmaninthenorth

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For a few years, Greeny was being passed around in very dubious circumstances between outright fraudsters and similar POS types (in both the US and UK). There's so much that's unwritten, but believe me when I say that it was a cesspit.

You may not be fully aware, but when Kirk bough it, literally nobody was putting their hand up to buy the guitar. Its condition is about as beat-to-shit as any 'burst on the planet, so if having a tiny set of initials engraved into the back is the price to pay for it being rescued and finding an appreciative home, being toured in front of large audiences and being openly shared without hesitation then, on balance, it's relatively insignificant in the greater scheme of things.

Lastly, Kirk is one of the nicest, most genuine and humble people you're likely to run into. A "prick" he most definitely is not. Trust me.
Rarely do I lose my temper in public.

My profound dissent remains.

Greeny does the carving, that's the price to pay.

Kirk was doing great up to the point he got bored.

I'm saying nothing here that I wouldn't say to his face.

As to trusting and believing you John, you have never given me a single pause not to.

Your mate is out of order, and despite his not giving a fuck protestations, methinks he protests just that little too much.

He knows he's dropped a bollock.
 

jb_abides

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It is his guitar, he can do with what he wants; he's rescued it from vagaries that may have otherwise befallen it even given the major damage that has come before.

All that said, I'd rather he'd just have stenciled the case. That's more in line with the tradition of its lineage.

But that's just me; hmm, and maybe that 'good steward' thinking kept me as a hobbyist with a profession... not an upstart, impactful musician with the means to acquire.

God bless them both going forward for a long fruitful run.

Happy Thanksgiving, that we have such marvels to appreciate from near and afar!
 
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