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Has anyone been following the launch of the Origin Effects...

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For traveling and quick change gigs :) All needed for a gig is a speaker cab. Cali compact , Revival Drive preamp(dual channel) , Helix FX, Duncan Power Stage and Line 6 wireless. The little box above the comp is a voltage doubler for the Cali comp :)
 

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I'm not 100% they really got it in that vid. Just remember: 1/2 the knobs (almost anyways) are repeats. NO LEARNING. about 1/3 of the remainder are set and forget. There is really not much learning involved though it does not look like that. It's actually quite simple to get great sounds. The manual and 15 minutes tops you are 1/2 through the learning curve. I don't know what he was doing with the book all night either. Though there are pictures in it...

Seriously though. They covered a lot of ground in the vid. A bunch I would not have bothered with. If you want in depth coverage the creator's 6 videos cover almost everything you'll ever need. You can watch them in a few hours.

Don Rowe! Nice setup!
 

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For traveling and quick change gigs :) All needed for a gig is a speaker cab. Cali compact , Revival Drive preamp(dual channel) , Helix FX, Duncan Power Stage and Line 6 wireless. The little box above the comp is a voltage doubler for the Cali comp :)

Super awesome rig! I could learn lessons from such a simple yet capable setup. I have a pretty big board and I run a Boss ES8 loop switcher, which is very versatile, but fly rig it isn't!
 

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I'm not 100% they really got it in that vid. Just remember: 1/2 the knobs (almost anyways) are repeats. NO LEARNING. about 1/3 of the remainder are set and forget. There is really not much learning involved though it does not look like that. It's actually quite simple to get great sounds. The manual and 15 minutes tops you are 1/2 through the learning curve. I don't know what he was doing with the book all night either. Though there are pictures in it...

Seriously though. They covered a lot of ground in the vid. A bunch I would not have bothered with. If you want in depth coverage the creator's 6 videos cover almost everything you'll ever need. You can watch them in a few hours.

Don Rowe! Nice setup!

I'm going to watch that video today hopefully, but after seeing review's like Pete Thorn's, and a few others, it actually didn't seem like such a gargantuan task to learn how to use it, just like you describe.

I've decided to go through my preferred music store in my area and it looks like there is a shortage of the customs right now so it will be a while until I get one, so by the time I get one I'll likely be an expert on it's use just as a function of all the video's I'm watching :hee
 

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I haven't used the 2cd EQ yet so I don't know if it is mandatory to get the custom... I lucked out and got it for the same price as a standard ! I am using smaller boards nowa days :) This size and a guitar in a gig bag if you get early boarding ;) This was testing phase without anything nailed down. The black box is a battery to do temp power to the RD. I crammed it tightly LOL
 

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I haven't used the 2cd EQ yet so I don't know if it is mandatory to get the custom... I lucked out and got it for the same price as a standard ! I am using smaller boards nowa days :) This size and a guitar in a gig bag if you get early boarding ;) This was testing phase without anything nailed down. The black box is a battery to do temp power to the RD. I crammed it tightly LOL

I had a Standard version payed for, at a great price on clearance, but after lots of hand fretting I decided I wanted the custom for more tweakability!

Yeah that pedal show review was very underwhelming! Weren't they supposed to use the blend knob for maximum effect, and NOT run the pedal with the blend function bypassed?! I think they totally missed the point. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Andertons review was much better, but then again they had the designer/maker there to demo it.
 

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I picked up a mint in-the-box Origin Effect Revival Drive off Reverb at a great price. My two cents: There is a learning curve. First you have to set it up for your particular amp. I’m using my old ’59 Bassman RI from 1993, Victoria Reverberato tank, and my R9 and ’61 SG RI. After the amp settings I did what I call baseline settings. For me the first baseline tone (orange channel) is an overdriven clean amp sound just before breakup. Second is a little more dirt like a tweed amp turned up high (optional midrange boost to cut through). Third a good distortion (gray channel), maybe two levels of this, one at the Black Dog level and the other at Paranoid (again with a midrange boost optional via footswitch). With the optional footswitch you can get 4-6 tones plus clean (unit off) at the touch of your pointy cowboy boot. Then I went exploring - Keith’s opening riff sound on Tumbling Dice, nails it. Using the Ghost knob to get Mick Taylor’s lead sound on Can’t you Hear Me Knockin. Lots of Ghost on that. This thing makes my amp sound so different it is just plain weird. When you kick on the Midrange Boost you get this touch sensitivity that my ’59 Bassman never had before. The Revival Drive also allows you to tone down the overly bright sounding amps that can make distortion on the high E string downright painful. It can make a dark sounding amp sound like a Twin Reverb. My other overdrive pedals needed more amp volume to really sound good. Revival does all this with my amp on 2 or 8.

More subtle things: My previous distortion seems to come in two distinct layers/harmonics, and often one fades out abruptly while the other hangs in there until it dies out. With this thing you can control this aspect of distortion. Make it all stop quick, or make it dissolve slowly together. Tight, loose, your choice. The Volume knob is more like a Gain/Vol knob. A small adjustment to this goes a long way to changing the sound/overdrive. There is a separate Output knob so you can keep the level the same as your amp with the Revival turned off. Complex yes, but once you get used to it you will not want to live without it.

I take photos and keep them on my phone for quick reference. I can make adjustments between songs pretty quickly so I’m not holding everyone up. Here’s a few….

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I'm going to give those settings a go, thanks for the review and the pictures. Great job.

I have to admit that I'm struggling with this pedal somewhat. I spend more time fiddling with it than I do actually playing the bugger. Definitely user stupidity rather than anything disparaging towards this superb bit of kit.

Thanks to your thread I'm going to persevere in the hope that the penny drops, so thanks once again.
 

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Still absolutely loving mine.

I tweak for overdrive mostly, but I still don't spend a ton of time fiddling.

And yes, I keep pictures of the settings I like and I will try some of Any's for giggles.
 

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Still absolutely loving mine.

I tweak for overdrive mostly, but I still don't spend a ton of time fiddling.

And yes, I keep pictures of the settings I like and I will try some of Any's for giggles.
It must be like the Line6 Helix I play. Everyone complains that you spend all your time tweaking. I am completely different. I needed mine for sessions nearly immediately so I spent a big blast of time creating a group of usable tones based on classic amps and then went to work, avoiding analysis paralysis completely.

Bob
 

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I'm going to give those settings a go, thanks for the review and the pictures. Great job.

I have to admit that I'm struggling with this pedal somewhat. I spend more time fiddling with it than I do actually playing the bugger. Definitely user stupidity rather than anything disparaging towards this superb bit of kit.

Thanks to your thread I'm going to persevere in the hope that the penny drops, so thanks once again.
You plugged the guitar cable into the hole in the bottom of the guitar right correct? I mean while it was plugged into the hole in the top of the pedal- the input one right?
 

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I saw a King of Tone locally for a decent price- and actually stopped and asked myself if I ever wasn't pleased with my tone.
The answer was no. The last fifteen times I played I didn't even have the thing plugged in...
We did play Sat and I attempted to knock off JD Simo's "I get by" cover- It actually killed- with my stacked OD's.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
 

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Some further notes.

I keep my amp at the same setting I usually use (For '59 Bassman treble/mid up, bass down, Presence up). I do not touch the amp, just the pedal settings.

Since I took those photos I have kicked the "Dry Gain" up to 2 o'clock to give my overdriven clean sound a little more bite. I play a lot on this setting.

It is a little hard to see the toggle switch positions but I keep the "Preamp" on GB or 0 and I keep "Bri-Cap" on 0 otherwise the sound gets too harsh using my Bassman (your amp will be different). If things are still too bright I turn the "Hi Shelf" counterclockwise.

I have the optional foot switch and I think this is a very important thing to have so you can boost the mids with your foot for a lead run or just more bite. Very much worth the extra $$.

There is interplay between the Volume and Blend knobs that is unexpected. I kinda wish there was none, but I guess this is how it works. If I take the Blend from 75% to say 25% the Volume goes up a bit, but in a good way.

Reading the manual was critical for me to understand more about amplifiers and how everything works together. I read the manual and watched the videos more times than I watched Toby Keith's "Aint as good as I used to be" video, and that's a lot! (In my defense and as an explanation to my skeptical wife I had to learn that song for an audition). I knew how treble bleed works so understanding the bright cap thing was easy. Negative feedback a little more difficult to get my head around. Ghosting, well you know it when you hear it, and I love this setting. I'll also note that I never played through amps with a Gain or Mater Volume control. I always used amps with only a Volume control, and I try to get that cranked Tweed, Brown Tolex, or early JTM sound. If you are more the former (say Mesa Boogie or later Marshall) then you'll have a much different path to sonic holy grail and this pedal may not be for you. The Mojotone site "What Does This Thing Do" does a great job of explaining things like negative feedback, pre-amp stage, and so on that really helped me know what knob to turn and how far.

Should I do a video on this? I dunno.
 
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Still absolutely loving mine.

I tweak for overdrive mostly, but I still don't spend a ton of time fiddling.

And yes, I keep pictures of the settings I like and I will try some of Any's for giggles.
Can you post some of your picture settings Ren if you get a minute?
 

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You plugged the guitar cable into the hole in the bottom of the guitar right correct? I mean while it was plugged into the hole in the top of the pedal- the input one right?
All sounds a bit komplicated that...can you do me a diagram? 🤪
 

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Can you post some of your picture settings Ren if you get a minute?
I went to pull them out when I saw this.

Just changed my phone and I can't find them.

I will dig oot me old one and find them, then I just have to figure oot how to get them posted as it ain't connected anymore.

As I do use them I NEED to do this...
 

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I love mine! I have the Custom version as well & 4 or 5 of Simon’s other pedals! I don’t think I’d do a gig without one!
 

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I figured something out that should have been obvious. By turning the Dry Gain up to 2 o'clock, the Blend knob would increase overall volume as I turned it counterclockwise (adding more Dry and less Overdrive). Now I get it. Doh. I get a blackface fender sound out of my Bassman with the dry gain and mid boost settings, which is cool. Still trying to capture a Plexi sound, getting close.
 

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Demos of mine...

DIRTY: PRS Custom 22 into the Origin Revival drive into Clark Beaufort (Wolfetone Dr V neck and Marshallhead bridge)

CLEAN: PRS Custom 22 into the Origin Revival drive into Clark Beaufort (Wolfetone Dr V neck and Marshallhead bridge)

Allman Brother style riffing with a Zemaitis A24 into the Origin Revival drive into Clark Beaufort (Tyson Precious and Grace )
 
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