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Help dating a late '60s SG Standard

david.beason

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Hello, SG aficionados. Earlier this year, I purchased an SG Standard, which was sold to me as a '67. The previous owner bought it used from a friend in 1970 and believed it to be a '67. The serial number is 897809 and there is no "Made in U.S.A." stamp on the back on the headstock. When I checked the serial number, from what I gathered, it dated it to either '67 or '69. I was OK with either and since he had gotten it so early in its life, I just rolled with it. I asked him if the knobs were original and he said they were, which also made me think it was more likely a '67 as I think they switched to witch hats that year. Here are some glamour shots to break up all this text.

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Anwyay, I recently posted this guitar in another thread and it was mentioned by other forum members that it looks more like a '69. After looking into the comments, I think we can rule out '67. Here is a headstock shot showing the crown, which does look like the '69 or later version with the taller base.

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I also noticed that it has a very small raised area where there would be a volute on later models, but where I believe there would have been nothing on a '67.

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It seems like most likely a '69, but I'm a little confused by the earlier reflector knobs (could be replacements) and the pot codes, which I believe date to '70.

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Here are some other pics that I took that may or may not be useful.

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Most signs point to '69, but I just wanted to get as much advice as I can. I have been considering selling this one and looking for a '63 or '64 with a wider nut and more deeply set neck, so I want to make sure that I don't misrepresent anything if I do decide to sell it. Even if I keep it, I would still like to know all I can as well. Thanks in advance! :salude
 

moonweasel

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not sure if they match up with lslp's but an lslp with that serial and headstock logo would be. a super super late 69 or very early 1970. that seems to jive with your 1970 pots too. are they really early? like first five or ten weeks of 1970?
 

david.beason

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not sure if they match up with lslp's but an lslp with that serial and headstock logo would be. a super super late 69 or very early 1970. that seems to jive with your 1970 pots too. are they really early? like first five or ten weeks of 1970?

I guess 10th? 1377010
 
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Progrocker111

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The neck seems to be 3 piece, they started in mid 69. I would say its early 1970, with unoriginal knobs.
 

krapac

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Considering the heel, neck, script and veneer, i say '69, maybe assembled in '70. A correct '70 model has different heel, the veneer is black fiber and logo is with b and o closed, all '70 are made with volute. i still have a '70 SG, if you need i can post some pics.
 

Kris Ford

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Considering the heel, neck, script and veneer, i say '69, maybe assembled in '70. A correct '70 model has different heel, the veneer is black fiber and logo is with b and o closed, all '70 are made with volute. i still have a '70 SG, if you need i can post some pics.
Yep, a leftover '69 that was finished in early '70 was my answer too, like I had pointed out to the OP previously.

We all agree on early 70 Bossaddict...but it's none less cool in my book!
 

Reno_1ted

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Another vote for early 70. Has the 69 features but pot codes probably pull it into early 70. Knobs and I would say saddles replaced. Saddle replacement can be considered an upgrade.

Great guitars, I have never minded a 3 piece hog neck personally. Angus played an early 70s a lot back in the day, for good reason. :)
 

MIKE LEAF

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My early 70 Custom didnt have a volute either , and no dot over the i.
Serial number was very close to this one..
 
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