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Hi Guys My first gibson historic 1959 les paul!

Jay Park

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Finally, I have this guitar and I admire it every day. Now that I'm planning to modifi to the specifications I want, I wonder if there's anything that can upgrade or replace the tuner to the extent that it doesn't deviate from the original component. I'm thinking of parts for Crazy Parts, is it a satisfactory choice?
 

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Any Name You Wish

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Awesome. Tiger Stripes! Nice dark fretboard too. You might want to give the Klusons some time. The ones on my new R9 are quite good. The ones on my 10+ year old CS Historic ES335 not so much.
 

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Congrats on your new R9....she's a beauty!!
The best way to not deviate from original tuners is to leave as is. Nothing wrong with factory/stock tuners.
Why not play it for a while, that way you'll have a better idea of what mods YOU want to make, not what everyone else tells you to make.
 

Ransom

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I just recently bought my first R9 and these things will hold their tuning quite well. Can't say the same for my past Gibsons but I think you should give them some time to see if you like them or not.
 

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In the event that it does seem like a tuning issue, 99,999 times out of 100,000 it’s the nut and not the tuners. Graph-it-All, NuttLube, something of the sort will likely cure what ails you. If you’d just prefer a higher gear ratio (accidentally stepping over pitch while tuning the G, amirite?), they make 18:1 direct replacements that require no routing, weigh no extra, look and feel identical, etc. Highly recommended over a heavier ’60s-style Grover that’ll add weight, rob tonal sparkle, and require routing of wood.
 

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In the event that it does seem like a tuning issue, 99,999 times out of 100,000 it’s the nut and not the tuners. Graph-it-All, NuttLube, something of the sort will likely cure what ails you. If you’d just prefer a higher gear ratio (accidentally stepping over pitch while tuning the G, amirite?), they make 18:1 direct replacements that require no routing, weigh no extra, look and feel identical, etc. Highly recommended over a heavier ’60s-style Grover that’ll add weight, rob tonal sparkle, and require routing of wood.
Also Big Bends Nut Sauce is very good on the nut
 

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Just look for tips from Uncle Lou. Tone x 1000. Sorry. I couldn't resist. they do look nice though.

I agree with the the dude who said to wait because once you have gone down the rabbit hole, everything changes. Have you tried any good NOS tubes lately? that's a hole worth getting buried in.
 

EdwardR9

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She is a stunner. I cannot leave well enough alone either. I use Crazy Parts for multiple parts, but not the tuners. Just learn how to seat the strings at the bridge and the nut and they work like a charm. Crazy Parts does have a historically correct ABR-1, which I upgrade on all of my Gibson's. If you are in the US, the shipping from Europe is slow. I waited three weeks on a set of pickups from Holland and paid $45 shipping.
 

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JayPark,
That is a beautiful guitar!
The advice offered in this thread is very wise. I would play the guitar for about 6 months and give it a chance as is.
I have had a lot of R9's and never replaced anything. I found that playing it in a band, it just takes some time to make adjustments and it works itself out for you. I never had a problem with Kluson tuners like these since I started in 1957.

My current R9, a 60th Anny version holds tune beautifully. The pickups, and hardware set up perfectly.
Give the guitar a chance. It may save you money and frustration.

Of course, as with anything, ymmv. :)
Best of luck.
 
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Sol

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JayPark,
That is a beautiful guitar!
The advice offered in this thread is very wise. I would play the guitar for about 6 months and give it a chance as is.
I have had a lot of R9's and never replaced anything. I found that playing it in a band, it just takes some time to make adjustments and it works itself out for you. I never had a problem with Kluson tuners like these since I started in 1957.

My current R9, a 60th Anny version holds tune beautifully. The pickups, and hardware set up perfectly.
Give the guitar a chance. It may save you money and frustration.

Of course, as with anything, ymmv. :)
Best of luck.
I'd just like to say a big 'Amen!' to the above post.
 
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