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High E String Keeps Slipping Off Fretboard (Could the Nut Be slotted Wrong?)

RedneckJunky

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Hi, I've got a 2013 LP Standard. I want to love it, but....it seems the high e string slips off the fretboard much more frequently than any of my other guitars. I have owned many LPs, currently have 2 other LPs, a V, an explorer, a couple of strats, a challenger, etc - this 2013 is the standout worst case - I've never had this issue so bad on any other guitar, almost to the point of being not playable. Is it possible someone has slotted the nut wrong or simply moved it to the high side a bit too much? I've had it refretted, and in the process the fret nibs were removed (the high e was hanging up on the nibs, and at least that problem is solved). I've had it plek'd, which did help overall playability tremendously, but this falling off the edge is really frustrating. Anyone ever see this, and more importantly, is there a fix?
 

myklomaniac

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If your question was serious, then yes.
I've never seen anyone pull the high E off the side of the fretboard for any reason, except maybe by accident.
So I suspect this has more to do with the way you play, or the size of your hand, the length of your fingers, etc., than a physical issue with the guitar.
Your other guitars are more forgiving, letting you get away with whatever it is you're doing that pulls the string off on the LP.
 

garywright

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OP ..please post some pix ..you can do so directly from your computer photos
 

RedneckJunky

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If your question was serious, then yes.
I've never seen anyone pull the high E off the side of the fretboard for any reason, except maybe by accident.
So I suspect this has more to do with the way you play, or the size of your hand, the length of your fingers, etc., than a physical issue with the guitar.
Your other guitars are more forgiving, letting you get away with whatever it is you're doing that pulls the string off on the LP.
I appreciate the response. I've had at least 8 other les Paul's, and have been playing over 40 years. This is the only guitar, les paul or other, with which I've had the issue.
 

Dave P

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Looks like the strings are a bit shifted to the high E side at the 22nd fret. Maybe a set of new saddles with the spacing more centered would help. Fret ends look to have a lot of bevel and rounded ends which cut into the playable width of the fingerboard.
 

RedneckJunky

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Looks like the strings are a bit shifted to the high E side at the 22nd fret. Maybe a set of new saddles with the spacing more centered would help. Fret ends look to have a lot of bevel and rounded ends which cut into the playable width of the fingerboard.
I think you just nailed it. I'm thinking the fret ends should be flush with the edge of the binding.
 

Tollywood

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I agree that the fret ends are too shy of the fretboard edge. The nut looks good. I bet a set of new frets installed properly will solve your problem. The good news is that you can choose your favorite size frets and then the guitar will be perfect for you.
 

RandK

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Don't like the fret ends, inconsistent amateur job trying to go pretty spherical ends. Play it differently so you don't get enough string movement to make it fall off the cliff. New nut that moves the high E inward a little (< 1/32nd) and adjusts the spread accordingly ~ $100. New fret job > $400 w/ a new nut. If the frets aren't worn excessively and as a player a little less string spread is tolerable...
 

latestarter

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I agree with the consensus here. Here is my R9 which was refretted about a month ago, for reference. Frets to the edge, some gentle curve to the ends, but not like yours.
Out of interest, this guitar is from 1999, and I put in some historic makeover inlays that I had had lying around for a long time. Looks pretty cool now.
 

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