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Honest question. Why do some people get so offended with expensive limited-editions?

Wizard1183

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I didn't propose anything.
I'm just surprised by opinions expressed as unequivocal statements.
Although...here on the internet...I guess we just assume everything is an opinion.
As dad used to say, "Everybody is entitled to my opinion."
He had no idea how much of the internet he was putting in a nutshell.
How is it an opinion that a buyer and owner can do what they want to do with their OWN property? You don’t make much sense
 

Wizard1183

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Wiz- comon man. What is the point of a post like this?
Well I said it didn’t matter what buyer does with it. And he said that’s an opinion. I can’t see how? I didn’t know he ruled the land and tell everyone what to do with they bought? I’ve not gotten a phone call or letter in the mail from him explaining I can’t do this or that with my Les paul. I’m going to assume it was a crime against humanity that I set it out in the blazing sun for 22 hrs to fade my 2015 TH59?
 

charliechitlins

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Probably, the suspicion is that they never get played...just put in a glass display case and admired from a few feet back while sipping a martoonie. Aaaaaaaannnnnndddddd!

There is YOUR opinion.
And some people have a problem with that.
 

jb_abides

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And some go on the wall behind glass, but can still be played. While I don't do this, I am all for whoever so chooses.

These help, all around.

They serve as 'Halo Marketing' and also help align those builders who rely on Gibson shapes, leading folks back to the brand and helping IP claims.

While I am sure Gibson enjoys nice margins on these, I think the bulk goes to Leo's personal costs. People will scream 'corporate greed' and the profit motives without thinking holistically...

The new owners need to keep operating while restructuring, paying down the debt, and investing in a [hopefully] stable future that doesn't kill the golden goose.
 

axeman565758

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and also Gibson won't replicate Limited Run type stuff, just approximate them...
that's not entirely true. In 2017, Gibson Custom offered a CS-336 P90. It had a wrap tail, a (typical) skinny 1960-style neck profile and 3-on-a-plate, plastic tip tuners and for the first time, a mahogany top. . I really liked the concept of the one-piece chambered body and 'hog top. With the P90's it was like a hollow body '54 LP Custom. A departure from all the Historic LP's Ive owned
So after some consults with Gibson Custom, I had the specs I wanted. The result was an M2M 2018 CS-336. Dog ear P90's, a regular Historic LP style ABR-1 bridge/stop tailpiece, nickel Grover Rotos and a massive (1st fret 1.031") neck. This thing is a monster
So Gibson will produce or alter to your specs any model they produce.
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ADP

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At $65k - who is the target market? I just have ask again.
 

1allspub

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At $65k - who is the target market? I just have ask again.
Someone with $65k to spend on a toy. Those people exist. I'm not one of them. But I could give a RAs if someone else wants to.

Just watch, these will all get bought and from then on be passed around collector circles. They are not meant for the average man. Or even the slightly above average man! LOL!
 

1allspub

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Back to the original question... because for some reason people cannot stand something that wasn't meant for them. Whether it's not meant for them from a stylistic standpoint (i.e., they don't like its form or function) or a monetary standpoint (i.e., they can't afford it even if they did) the thing's very existence puts into sharp contrast that the person bellyaching about it on the "out". And when people are not part of something (either by choice or by circumstance) they tend to attack it. It's a defense mechanism against being "left out"... even if someone doesn't even actually want "in". As social beings, we just don't like being excluded--irrespective of whether something is our personal taste or not.
 

ADP

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Someone with $65k to spend on a toy. Those people exist. I'm not one of them. But I could give a RAs if someone else wants to.

Just watch, these will all get bought and from then on be passed around collector circles. They are not meant for the average man. Or even the slightly above average man! LOL!
Again, even someone with the money has countless better options of better guitars and better investments. Not too many collectors in the game are actually dumb enough to drop that coin on a new model Gibson. Unless they are brand new to it all.

Again, even if I wanted one of those single pickup V's bad enough - I'd feel like an absolute chump if I paid what they want for one. Regardless of having the money or not, there is no way to justify that kind of "value". Again, for less than $30k you can pick up an Aged Pearly Gates Les Paul.
 

brandtkronholm

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Why do some people get so offended when Gibson releases a very expensive, limited-edition CS guitar? (E.g. The recent Leo Scala ones, or even the Theodores).

Do those people know they don’t have to buy said guitar? It’s not like Gibson is putting their USA or cheaper CS guitars out of production because of those, they’re just an addition that really…. If it’s too expensive, they don’t have to buy it. It really baffles me.

I really like those Leo Scala Vs and wish I had the money to buy one, but I don’t so I just enjoy the pictures and videos and wish/will work hard so that some day maybe I will be able to get one for myself.
I don't understand your concern or your question.
Please rephrase it or provide an example of what you're getting at.
 

Pat Boyack

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At $65k - who is the target market? I just have ask again.
Why do you have to ask, again? They are targeting the rich collector.
Again, even someone with the money has countless better options of better guitars and better investments. Not too many collectors in the game are actually dumb enough to drop that coin on a new model Gibson. Unless they are brand new to it all.
I can tell you from experience that you are wrong.
 

axeman565758

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Yeah, but not truly 'Limited' stuff. Try getting a Chris Cornell. You can just 'approximate' the specs, and are even more limited with spec'ing southpaws.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Gibson should be able to do any spec to pretty much any guitar. When I was doing my CS-336, I toyed with the idea of a Trini Lopez. I think they look cool. But it would have had the huge neck I like and a Bigsby. The quote I got for it referred to it as a Gibson Trini Lopez M2M. I would think the same thing for a CC model. However, you might be correct in that you wouldnt be able to call it a Chris Cornell model......but then that wouldnt be something important to me.
 

citson

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I don't understand your concern or your question.
Please rephrase it or provide an example of what you're getting at.
I think a lot of people answered it, but my point is that I’ve read so much hate online (I know it’s a vocal minority, but still) when Gibson decides to launch a guitar that’s expensive, but who cares if there’s a guitar you can’t afford or simply don’t like? Someone clearly does because they’re buying them. Let them appreciate it. I can’t buy a Leo Scala V, but I can still appreciate it while buying USA models that I can afford.
 
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