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I don't get it....why buy aged guitar???

ONEHERO

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I don't get why you keep starting these shinkicking threads..
You "Hate" plaintops, think naming a guitar is "Cringeworthy", and now this again..
As already said by yourself, you don't understand/get it...
We are aware of that by now.
Thank you..

Sorry my posts made you feel miserable :eek:la
 

P.Walker

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Sorry my posts made you feel miserable :eek:la

He's talking more about the manner in which you direct these questions. You do know the answer you just don't like it so you pretend not to understand it. Some of these have been regurgiated ad infinitum and if you're not simply a troll you sure come across as thick; people like plaintops because to them it's an understated elegance, and people like aged guitars because of the patina which looks closer to an older guitar's. There, that wasn't so hard was it?
 

MeHereNow

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Miserable is'nt the right word.
Neither is hate or cringeworthy..
As stated before, this OP's subject is been discussed to death and you'll find all the answers you want if you use the "search" function.
So why start yet another thread regarding ageing of guitars, and use less then subtle terms in the title and opening post?
Now you understand?

:ganz
 

Cogswell

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He's just grappling w/the tough questions & being edgy
 

Pellman73

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Tom Murphy Aged Gary Rossington Les Paul. What's not to like? :2cool


I just see a update your account to allow third party hosting thing

is that an issue on my end?

love gary rossingtons

I think duane would ike the company
 

Tom Wittrock

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I just bought a Gibson Les Paul True Historic and I'm happy to be the one who'll age it as time goes. I'm not sure I understand the idea of buying a guitar massacred by someone else though :hmm

Massacred? :bigal

This makes it sound like you plan to massacre your guitar.
Why would you want to do that? :wah
 

J200george

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I find buying a guitar that's aged quite liberating, I'm not scared of dinging it. I play it harder and I don't get hung up on the least little mark.

contrast with my brand new mint American Vintage 64 candy red tele, I get pissed when I notice a new nick or blemish on the paint work.

you pays your money you takes your choice and I have to say my loic le pape junior dc is the best guitar I've got, playing and sounding way better than any other guitar Gibson collectors choice Sandy included.

This will probably make some people very sick. :hee

http://www.loiclepapesteelguitars.com/spip.php?article383&lang=en
 
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mustachio

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I have an Murphay Aged TH58. I personally don't give a shit whether or not they are aged. I only care about the sound and feel of the instrument. I had an incredible deal at about 45% off the street price that I couldn't pass up the opportunity to try it. With the advent of flexible return policies from dealers, it was worth it. If I didn't like it, or it was a dud, I could send it back. What I like about Gibson aged guitars is that the neck (main point of contact) is virtually new. Nearly no "checking" and no neck binding bleeding, until I put it there. I wouldn't necessarily seek out a $10,000 guitar, but I wouldn't turn my nose up to it.

I will say, Fender relicing is fine, maybe the heavy reliced is too far for me, but one thing I can not abide by is when they remove lacquer to bare wood on the back of the neck or bare wood between frets for two reasons.

(1) even if the Wood is pressurized, cured and seasoned, leaving a bare neck could potentially twist and warp. Different story if the neck is bare from use, oils and deposits from hands settle in the wood and protect it. Plus, if a neck was lacquered new and over time became stripped from use, the early settling years of the guitar were protected and had probably stabilized by the time bare wood would be exposed. But, just stripping it, too risky.

And (2) stripping lacquer between frets adds more distance to press the strings against the board, therefore putting more pressure on fretwire causing pitting and early refretting.

Also, for those not paying too much detail to listing specs and pictures, reliced or aged guitars may have premium construction, premium wood selected for weight, aesthetic, etc., pickups not available aftermarket. They do that shit on purpose and stupid people like me get suckered in.

That being all said, this is the best Les Paul I've ever owned. Best sustain on every fret and note, best fretjob and comfortable neck in my experience. Oh, and it's 8 lbs even. From far away you couldn't tell it's aged. I'd let you take the Pepsi Challange.
 

indravayu

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I have an Murphay Aged TH58. I personally don't give a shit whether or not they are aged. I only care about the sound and feel of the instrument. I had an incredible deal at about 45% off the street price that I couldn't pass up the opportunity to try it. With the advent of flexible return policies from dealers, it was worth it. If I didn't like it, or it was a dud, I could send it back. What I like about Gibson aged guitars is that the neck (main point of contact) is virtually new. Nearly no "checking" and no neck binding bleeding, until I put it there. I wouldn't necessarily seek out a $10,000 guitar, but I wouldn't turn my nose up to it.

I will say, Fender relicing is fine, maybe the heavy reliced is too far for me, but one thing I can not abide by is when they remove lacquer to bare wood on the back of the neck or bare wood between frets for two reasons.

(1) even if the Wood is pressurized, cured and seasoned, leaving a bare neck could potentially twist and warp. Different story if the neck is bare from use, oils and deposits from hands settle in the wood and protect it. Plus, if a neck was lacquered new and over time became stripped from use, the early settling years of the guitar were protected and had probably stabilized by the time bare wood would be exposed. But, just stripping it, too risky.

And (2) stripping lacquer between frets adds more distance to press the strings against the board, therefore putting more pressure on fretwire causing pitting and early refretting.

Also, for those not paying too much detail to listing specs and pictures, reliced or aged guitars may have premium construction, premium wood selected for weight, aesthetic, etc., pickups not available aftermarket. They do that shit on purpose and stupid people like me get suckered in.

That being all said, this is the best Les Paul I've ever owned. Best sustain on every fret and note, best fretjob and comfortable neck in my experience. Oh, and it's 8 lbs even. From far away you couldn't tell it's aged. I'd let you take the Pepsi Challange.

Very similar story for me with my Murphy aged TH58. I was not seeking an aged LP - just stumbled upon this one used on Reverb for a stupid low price (original owner must have taken a major bath when he unloaded it!) - the top looked good, the weight was right for me (8.5 lbs) and I knew that if I didn't like it, I could probably flip it for a profit.

When it arrived, I was blown away by how great it was. Perfect neck for me, gobs of sustain, very vibrant/resonant neck and body, and the Custom Buckers sounded great.

Barring some sort of personal financial disaster, I have no plans to sell it.

The aging just makes it feel more like a broken-in old guitar friend that I've played for years.
 

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... What I like about Gibson aged guitars is that the neck (main point of contact) is virtually new. Nearly no "checking" and no neck binding bleeding, until I put it there...

I will say, Fender relicing is fine, maybe the heavy reliced is too far for me, but one thing I can not abide by is when they remove lacquer to bare wood on the back of the neck or bare wood between frets...


I agree. The reliced R4 I have is wonderful, my favorite Gibson. The heavy reliced Strat Cruz Master design is over the top with the bare neck. I don't like it and will probably tung oil the neck or laquer it because it feels like I'm gonna get a splinter.
 

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I don't look at aged guitars as fake, I like the fact that they look older than new, the same reason we love the look of old bursts.

You don't have to worry about the first ding, the last ding, or any other ding or donk on the guitar ruining your perfect finish. I did that just once to my first historic that had a killer flametop, and a big dong on top from my carelessness.

But as Big Al said they are fake, but in fairness, I don't think anyone with an aged guitar is trying to fool anyone.

As far as the word fake is concerned every guitar player I have ever met is faking something when they strap on a guitar. Either their songs, their haircut, their hair color, their silly ass version of stage clothes, the dark sunglasses inside the dark club, you name it. So its ok to do all that but strap on a CC Les Paul, and all of a sudden your a faker. Geez.

Regarding Cunetto's I have owned seven of them. They first came out in 95.My first one had a Mary Kaye finish, 50's version, with a huge V neck. So much V that it was difficult to play at times

In my view they are some of the best guitars that Fender has produced, and like everything you can get a good one or a dud. They were the first of the production run aged guitars that started the whole aging phenom. Another poster was talking about Keith Richards story, and I believe that to be true as well, he started the whole process by wanting a guitar that didn't feel new.

Cunetto's are very desirable by many, I certainly wish I had a few back. But since that time Fender has improved upon those models, aging and toneful guitars have been produced for quite a while since Vince left.

When I see a thread about why do we like aged guitars, I cringe. The subject has been beat to death, but like a car wreck, I slow down and cant help but watch.

Its usually a newbie, or a trolling topic. Not accusing this op, just in general. So its basically a fake thread most times, because not many people really care that much anymore.

Admittedly, I do not own a guitar that isn't aged for real, or aged by design. I resist buying anything that isn't aged in fact. Since 95 I have never turned back, aged guitars feel better, look better to me, and I never care if I boink it on the coffee table.

Do aged guitars sound better? No, you sound better or you don't. You cant fake that.
 

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I agree. The reliced R4 I have is wonderful, my favorite Gibson. The heavy reliced Strat Cruz Master design is over the top with the bare neck. I don't like it and will probably tung oil the neck or laquer it because it feels like I'm gonna get a splinter.

See, that just goes to show that it comes down to personal preference, and sometimes functionality/playability specifically and not just aesthetics. One of the reasons I love relic Fenders is because of the feel of the sanded necks. That was one of the main reasons I bought my heavy relic '56 reissue Strat, and then chose a Journeyman P-Bass when looking for a new bass.
 

El Gringo

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I just want to mention that both Gibson and Fender charge more $ for the aged/Murphy/relic guitars than regular new ones and that is my beef that they cost more (not that I want a pre dinged factory guitar ) No Disrespect to others that do because they most certainly fill a niche / pricepoint versus a vintage instrument that could be cost prohibitive for a lot of guitarist's
 

J T

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Bonnie Raitt's Strat is nearly completely bare wood. Doesn't affect her playing one bit.

A friend of mine has a Strat that is completely bare wood, pretty much like Bonnie's. I think it's actually the same year too. I have played it and it's just fine. Sounds and plays just like a '60s Strat should.
 

Cogswell

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What's going on here? Two page thread & people are still enjoying & buying aged guitars! I guess the message just isn't getting out
Lol
 

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Aged yes, my ding, no problem, with an aged guitar hey.
 

Tom Wittrock

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Re: I don't get it....why buy a guitar???

Fixed it for you, ONEHERO. :ganz

:salude
 

Tom Wittrock

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What's going on here? Two page thread & people are still enjoying & buying aged guitars! I guess the message just isn't getting out
Lol

I have scheduled to have all of my Bursts refinished. When done, they will go into locked glass cases, so they do not get aged again. :salude
 
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