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Is this a real Collectors Choice?

GoJohnnyGoGo

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Hi everyone,

A guy near my city sells the following two gibsons for a ridiculous low price.
it is so low that it makes me distrust the authenticity of guitars. I'm talking about a Collector Choice # 30 and a Gibson 335 whose serial number does not match a valid one according to guitardaterproject.

Due to the pandemic, I cannot drive to see them without exposing myself to a possible fine. I'm going to write him a whatsapp to ask why he sells them (according to the ad, they were from his son) and more pictures.

I would be grateful if you would help me to check if they are authentic or not while waiting for more pictures.

Thanks in advance
 

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GoJohnnyGoGo

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You are right Lars. Actually the pictures belonged to two authentic gibsons, but their owner was a different person than the one who had published the ad (the price was $ 2,200 for both, it would be a miracle). It was a scam.

So the good old rule, "If it´s too good to be true, it most likely isn´t" is right again, sadly...

Thank you for your help guys. Case solved.
 

OldStrummer

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I realize this is now a dead thread, but I want to add my opinion based on owning a number of guitars (31) over the years. I have only three guitars in that entire collection that have appreciated in value since I acquired them. The first, is my 1957 Gibson ES-225t. The value of it increased the day I got it because I traded a pair of stereo speakers for it. The second, is a 1977 handmade classical guitar that I was given by its original owner who no longer wanted it (never learned to play). I've been in contact with the luthier, so there is provenance, but its value is >0. The third, is a Fender Classic Player Triple Telecaster I bought online as a "slick deal" for about 50% off its retail price. I bought it five years ago. Today, that guitar's MSRP is the same as it was then. But if I sold it, I'd likely make a tiny profit.

The moral of this story is: Buying a guitar for its value as a collector's item is a good way to burn your money.
 

GoJohnnyGoGo

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Totally agree. Also, it's kind of an addiction to buy and sell guitars for its value.

After doing it over the years and changing several guitars, the only thing I have achieved is having regretted selling the most precious ones to me (not the most valuable ones) and having invested a lot of time (ironically, the most valuable thing in life).
 

Big Al

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I realize this is now a dead thread, but I want to add my opinion based on owning a number of guitars (31) over the years. I have only three guitars in that entire collection that have appreciated in value since I acquired them. The first, is my 1957 Gibson ES-225t. The value of it increased the day I got it because I traded a pair of stereo speakers for it. The second, is a 1977 handmade classical guitar that I was given by its original owner who no longer wanted it (never learned to play). I've been in contact with the luthier, so there is provenance, but its value is >0. The third, is a Fender Classic Player Triple Telecaster I bought online as a "slick deal" for about 50% off its retail price. I bought it five years ago. Today, that guitar's MSRP is the same as it was then. But if I sold it, I'd likely make a tiny profit.

The moral of this story is: Buying a guitar for its value as a collector's item is a good way to burn your money.
Every guitar I own has increased in value. My long experience has shown that the longer you keep them the more they go up. I have some I've owned since the 70's that have increased 10X what I paid. It's a long game, if that's your aim. Me, I'm a player. Bought tools and hung on to them. This investing crap has ruined the market with idiot speculators, ignorant dumbass buyers and manufacturers catering to them with Franklin Mint edition collectibles and designer ltd ed with features and colors meant to feed them. How many dumbass posts have there been by flippin flippers who expect to invest in a guitar for quick high yield profit???

Buy smart, play 'em till you can't no more, will 'em or sell 'em. I got my monies worth and haven't sold any. Can't lose.
 

El Gringo

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This market has really become crazy . Way back in the 70's it was all about playing when I was a kid . That is how I still feel about guitars that they are to play and make music , not to be treated as a blue chip commodity . That just bores me to death .
 

JPP-1

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We’ve got more great guitars being made today at a variety of price points than at any time in history. Amps too.

if you buy used you should probably not lose much money while enjoying a great instrument. That’s the beauty of these Historic guitars, after a point their depreciation is minimal and in rare occasions, they may even increase a little in value. But as an investment, Please. It makes me cringe every time I see a NGD and someone talking about their “investment”
 
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