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Joe B & Zakk Wylde - Crossroads

Pat Boyack

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I think both of them play guitar but have yet to really play any music....sorry....It's never about the song....it's about the guitar and what they can do with the guitar....not the actual music that is made....Robert Johnson made a song...he just happened to use a guitar to do it....it was about a song, a story not at all about his guitar...everyone else has made it about the guitar

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Very, very true. As a friend of mine once said, "The guitar destroyed the Blues." The music has always been about the vocal and the song. Sure there are exceptions and you all are welcome to post them here or call me an idiot. But the first instrument was the human voice and the first songs were oral transcriptions of history being passed down to the next generations.
 

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:applaude :applaude

Very, very true. As a friend of mine once said, "The guitar destroyed the Blues." The music has always been about the vocal and the song. Sure there are exceptions and you all are welcome to post them here or call me an idiot. But the first instrument was the human voice and the first songs were oral transcriptions of history being passed down to the next generations.

I would only say that "musicians who have crappy taste" destroyed the blues (but I don't think its destroyed anyway). I sure like to hear some blues played on another instrument: thats why I love folks like Hank Crawford, Dock Boggs, Little Walter... :dude:
 
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Very, very true. As a friend of mine once said, "The guitar destroyed the Blues." The music has always been about the vocal and the song. Sure there are exceptions and you all are welcome to post them here or call me an idiot. But the first instrument was the human voice and the first songs were oral transcriptions of history being passed down to the next generations.

I disagree with your friend. The guitar is the perfect instrument for blues accompaniment and call&response. The list of great Blues guitar players is too long to list, but with a few surprises as to who'd be left off that list.
 

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Joe is using a gold klon as his overdrive at this time I believe.
 
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Well... Neither one of us would want this played at our career Bar Mitzvahs as a this is your life in 6 mins reel. I seemed to have been caught up in the moment, a bit wired on copius amounts of Tylenol cold and flu and showed about as much restraint as Usain Bolt running a 100 meter dash. Zakk has been a guitar idol from before I got into the music business 25 years ago and has done a lot to bring guitar music played on a Gibson Les Paul to kids and a younger generation. This being the Les Paul forum and such. I hope this video does not define a brilliant and legendary career such as Zakk's. It was a blast and he is hellava nice cat.

Is this thing on?

Joe B :peace2
 
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Zakk has become a major parody of himself.

If I were paying to see Zakk or JB, I would hope they would turn up....and be Zack or JB. Am I missing something here?
 

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Well... Neither one of us would want this played at our career Bar Mitzvahs as a this is your life in 6 mins reel. I sermed to have been caught up in the moment, a bit wired on copius amounts of Tylenol cold and flu and showed about as mych restraint as Usain Bolt running a 100 meter dash. Zakk has been a guitar idol from before I got into the music business 25 years ago and has done a lot to bring guitar music played on a Gibson Les Paul to kids and a younger generation. This being the Les Paul forum and such. I hope this video does not define a brilliant and legendary career such as Zakk's. It was a blast and he is hellava nice cat.

Is this thing on?

Joe B :peace2

I thought your playing was great. Zack's was fine, it just didn't fit the overall sound of the tune. But we all know how these things go..little prep time, half ass sound check if that. All good.

All that said, I think some of us might be a bit narrow in our tastes contributing to the responses. I like Black Label Society, though I currently find myself listening to other genres.
 

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It sounded like a blast, too. I don't know much about Zakk but I would love to have seen it.
 

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Funny thing about this thread is that Clapton gets ahead of the beat in his solo on the original cream version....but it is still considered "classic."
 

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Clapton often seems to do the opposite to me, but why can't it be considered ''Classic"?
 

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to me it's just a matter of taste, the rest is beyond my capabilities and I will not critizise anything. I've heard real great stuff from ZW as well as I heard stuff I didn't like too much like with many other players. He's a great guitarist for sure.
 

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Funny thing about this thread is that Clapton gets ahead of the beat in his solo on the original cream version....but it is still considered "classic."

It is a classic.....very extraordinary at the time it was recorded. Over-wanked in the version discussed here. YMMV.
 

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Young Clapton seemed to have natural phrasing. When he solo'd fast it still didn't seem like guitar wankery. Almost nobody has that today. Not even Clapton. The story is told that the solo from creams crossroads was edited down. I'd love to hear the extended version.
 

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I disagree with your friend. The guitar is the perfect instrument for blues accompaniment and call&response. The list of great Blues guitar players is too long to list, but with a few surprises as to who'd be left off that list.

The piano and harp also did this very well. Also, many of those "great Blues guitar players" were solid vocalists in their own right. Their voices were just as important as the guitar. Now it seems to be "let me hurry and sing these two verses so I can solo for 10 minutes".
 

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I think there just arent many folks who can sing the blues as well as they can play them. No shortage of players, but singers are rarer.
 
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