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Kirk H Greeny USA

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jb_abides

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Two entirely different groups united by the eponymous rhythm section. Both great, for different reasons.

Love both guitarists, for different reasons.

Great songs from Peter, too.


And don't forget Bob Welch era! Another Les Paul guy.

 

deadgrateful

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If someone wants to spend $500 or $50,000, it makes sense for Gibson to offer them a product.

Fleetwood Mac was way better with Lindsey Buckingham than with Peter Green, who, probably twenty years ago, most of his biggest fans had never even heard of. The internet is a funny thing, and it's interesting for somebody my age (mid-40s) to see the 'enlightened tastes' of my peers as the internet has dictated what's good and bad.

Peter Green was a great guitar player. Kirk Hammett is a great guitar player. I would rather listen to Lindsey Buckingham, and if I were so inclined, I could probably buy a 1974 Les Paul Custom in white for a lot less than $50,000. I like great albums and great songs.

I don't care about long guitar solos, no matter who plays them. I don't like songs that are just a reason to play a solo. This is why I would rather listen to Rumors than the people who are "Saving teh Blooze," or "Most Authentic Roots player," or "Unknown Legend of the Last Century." It doesn't intertest me.

I worked with Fleetwood Mac a few years ago, and Mike Campbell was playing guitar. He's a great player, but I thought they were lacking with him. I worked with Stevie Nicks last year, and Waddy Watchel made me forget who Lindsey Buckingham was for about 8 hours. I almost bought a used WW model, but it sold before I decided. It's probably for the best. He played an older Les Paul that had been repainted, which sounded pretty good to me.

Someday, maybe when Lindsey dies, they'll make a tribute model to him, and the internet will go on and on about how amazing he was like they do with Karen Carpenter, Brian Wilson, and all the other people that were always great but now are 'forum great.'

I did some work with Metallica last year and posted some pictures here. Greeny is running through a computer. It was cool to see it in person, but it didn't mean anything to me. Its neat KH is playing it live, although maybe he's playing the copy now. Who knows.

Gibson will probably make an Epiphone version within the next year or two, which is a good idea. The specs on the USA model aren't that clear to me. Without the aging it doesn't look like the old one, but I'm sure it has some case candy and things I don't know about.

I'm all for it if it makes people happy to own it.
Have you actually listened to PG’s Mac? It’s far far from just rootsy blues. Those were some pioneering genre defining pieces of music that stand up with the greats of all time. Later Mac is great too, as is Lindsey Buckingham, but he was just as inclined to play a solo as Green. If you don’t understand the lore of Greeny then that’s totally fine (I’m not interested in paying 20k for any guitar but I‘m fascinated by these mythical old Lp’s), but you have to accept that some of the finest tunes of the last 60 years came out of that thing (you’ve heard of Thin Lizzy I presume).
 

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Oh you like pop music. Wrong forum
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Have you actually listened to PG’s Mac? It’s far far from just rootsy blues. Those were some pioneering genre defining pieces of music that stand up with the greats of all time. Later Mac is great too, as is Lindsey Buckingham, but he was just as inclined to play a solo as Green. If you don’t understand the lore of Greeny then that’s totally fine (I’m not interested in paying 20k for any guitar but I‘m fascinated by these mythical old Lp’s), but you have to accept that some of the finest tunes of the last 60 years came out of that thing (you’ve heard of Thin Lizzy I presume).
yes I have. Like I said, the PG stuff is cool and once in a while I put something on. I don’t listen to a lot of Fleetwood Mac either way, but given the choice the LB version would be more likely what I would put on.
 

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How did Bernie Marsden get more famous than Bloomfield or Mick Taylor?
I had to Google him to find out who he is.
he didnt get more famous he was "licenceable" the Bloomfield burst doesn't want to be "found" so they cant advertise the digital scanning and mesurements and all that jazz, and as far as Mick Taylor (who is one my absolute heros) you would have to rope in Keith and do the Taylor/Richards bigsby burst and that would have its own set of issues trying to get those two guys.
 
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I don’t care about the authenticity of the look. I wanna hear those pickups.
I’m sure they’re the best things Gibson has ever put out due to hiring a boutique pickup dealer Jared Brandon. Gibson will probably wait a decade before you can buy them lol. Hopefully much earlier since they’re trying to capitalize on every market.

One burst owner said new ML guitars are much better than Historic Makeovers. ? I was like yea ok because Tom Murphy is associated with them and there’s a premium it’s better? Gibson can’t touch HM when it comes to finish and lacquer and of course you can get a braz board with them vs paying $10k+ for a piece of braz. Some ppl’s children.
 

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USA version


That Peach Picks video is a punch in the heart. Such great playing. And the tones…??. I know I just got the Tribute, and I love it, but I need to get one of these.
 

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Got one and I cant put it down. Pickups are great.

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Does the USA model have the crude KH initials? If not, then it is worth more than the CS versions IMO.
No. It’s not aged. Hell it doesn’t even look like Greeny. The tops are completely different. But I believe $50k $20k and USA model all have Greenybuckers in them.
 

lure555

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Is the only difference between Greeny USA and the Slash Appetite Burst the pickups?
 

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Is the only difference between Greeny USA and the Slash Appetite Burst the pickups?

Yes, the Greeny has the new GreenyBuckers [Slash gets Custom Burstbucker Alnico IIs].

The GreenyBuckers are supposed to be available in the Gibson Pickup Store in the future, for those who want the option.

Probably won't show up until they've sold many more Greeny USAs...
 

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Is the only difference between Greeny USA and the Slash Appetite Burst the pickups?

Addendum: apologies -- you stated 'only' -- and I answered 'substantial' difference.

Of course the plastics are a bit different [TRC, all reflectors on Slash] and Greeny has Grovers versus Klusons on Slash, if that matters, but it's not a material difference.

The real question is how are they picking the tops and mahogany weight...? And if there is some actual criteria. I doubt it.
 
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