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Les Paul Custom - what year?

Big Al

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aNYBODY WANNA WEIGH IN. cOULD THEY BE PRE 62 OR A REPRO?
Kenny, I'm at a loss over this post. The thread is about an early 70's Custom and out of the blue, with no context your only post in this thread is pretty random, to say the least. Why would you think those are real vintage pafs and what has it to do with this topic?

The decal is not real for pre '62. Covers appear to be chrome. Without context it is hard to say what they may be, but they most likely are modern era replicas. The covers seem to lack the sharp corners of the 57 Classic and other paf varients such as Burstbuckers so that raises questions. It would be helpful to them without covers to see bobbins and wire for further clues to its identity.

As of now 57 Classics seems a good guess. What's the story?
 

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The pups belonged to John Primer. I figured if anybody could tell me anything it would be ppl knowledgeable about Gibsons in general. Was thinking of getting my hands on them but I did not know what they were. I wasn’t gonna ask the guy to go as far as taking anything else loose since he was at work. I think I have what I need to know. I’ll be careful about posting. This is the 1st forum I have been on in years. If I have caused any trouble sorry. I just hope you could imagine when you were not an expert and how excited seeing that PAF sticker might have made you.
 

123sg

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Sounds like a simple case of a high fret. With seasonal climate changes in humidity wood will expand and contract. Metal not so much. Up here I pretty much plan on bi-annual setups, Winter and Summer. Contracting wood in dry, (low humidity), season like winter is what causes fret ends to feel sharp or on bound necks cracks appear by the nibs.

It may cause a fret to rise among other things. You can sometimes tap it back down with a fret hammer. Then level, crown and polish. Good idea to put a small bead of glue along the high frets base before tapping down. I work it in with my finger when using titebond and snug slots. With sloppy slots that the fret keeps popping out of I use water thin super glue, it wicks into the slot and either way I will clamp the frets down to set.

Tobacco burst is a favorite finish of mine, I like that color on every kind of guitar. I have a 2000 Standard and it is a firm favorite, having gigged and toured with it constantly until I was unable to play and forced to quit. Refretted with 6100's when I wore them out. Pickups were 57 Classics and they suit me very well. Excellent pups and favourites of mine. Big fan of Ttops too. I have an early 70's Goldtop Deluxe I really like and have played it for almost 50yrs. I try to keep stuff I like. Been with my wife almost as long, I'm an old hoarder.

Not sure about your headstocks wrinkley face. Pics would help.
 

123sg

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Sounds like a simple case of a high fret. With seasonal climate changes in humidity wood will expand and contract. Metal not so much. Up here I pretty much plan on bi-annual setups, Winter and Summer. Contracting wood in dry, (low humidity), season like winter is what causes fret ends to feel sharp or on bound necks cracks appear by the nibs.

It may cause a fret to rise among other things. You can sometimes tap it back down with a fret hammer. Then level, crown and polish. Good idea to put a small bead of glue along the high frets base before tapping down. I work it in with my finger when using titebond and snug slots. With sloppy slots that the fret keeps popping out of I use water thin super glue, it wicks into the slot and either way I will clamp the frets down to set.

Tobacco burst is a favorite finish of mine, I like that color on every kind of guitar. I have a 2000 Standard and it is a firm favorite, having gigged and toured with it constantly until I was unable to play and forced to quit. Refretted with 6100's when I wore them out. Pickups were 57 Classics and they suit me very well. Excellent pups and favourites of mine. Big fan of Ttops too. I have an early 70's Goldtop Deluxe I really like and have played it for almost 50yrs. I try to keep stuff I like. Been with my wife almost as long, I'm an old hoarder.

Not sure about your headstocks wrinkley face. Pics would help.
 

123sg

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Thanks for the reply a.m. to big Al Here’s my best effort of getting a picture of the neck face plate I’m learning how to use the computer too. I seen about three like this in a used guitar shop not far from hereThe owner said they were traded in from the south? I’ve had this for five years or more I understand our retrofit procedures kits for this thanks again
 

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Thanks for the reply a.m. to big Al Here’s my best effort of getting a picture of the neck face plate I’m learning how to use the computer too. I seen about three like this in a used guitar shop not far from hereThe owner said they were traded in from the south? I’ve had this for five years or more I understand our retrofit procedures kits for this thanks again
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That is a lacquer adhesion issue most likely from excessive prolonged moisture exposure. Exactly what form I do not know. If kept out for days wth high dew points above 70 or used as a paddle???

The finish is lifting from fibre surface and headstock should be refinished. Scary but a relative easy fix and not too expensive to do. Still, noone wants this and I'm sorry yours is having a face lift off.
 

123sg

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Thanks for your response., This is the 2000 standard tobacco burst. Taken out for pictures force me to play it for a while the Pick ups are really nice in a few times I played live really have a nice punch you don’t recommend gluing a new piece of new headstock logo over it Or refinishing the old one? This is modeled after 1956 1958 model with the thicker neck?
 

Big Al

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Thanks for your response., This is the 2000 standard tobacco burst. Taken out for pictures force me to play it for a while the Pick ups are really nice in a few times I played live really have a nice punch you don’t recommend gluing a new piece of new headstock logo over it Or refinishing the old one? This is modeled after 1956 1958 model with the thicker neck?
The best course would be to strip the top coat, (lacqure clear coat), off the face of the headstock and refinish with new clear coat, rub out or buff and rock on. The gold decal might need to be replaced but that is all. Simple work for qualified repair tech. It is what I would do.
 

123sg

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Thanks for your follow up. Got the guitar onThe stand right now early a.m. Saturday morning pot of coffee wake up the neighbors
 

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I have a very similar LPC to the one in the original post. It has a serial number on it, but I can’t really read it correctly.

I paid about $1500 for mine a couple years ago and it plays and sounds great. Sadly, mine has replaced bridge and pickups. It has throw backs in it, not sure of the model, but i really like it.
 

KennyInKY

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Kenny, I'm at a loss over this post. The thread is about an early 70's Custom and out of the blue, with no context your only post in this thread is pretty random, to say the least. Why would you think those are real vintage pafs and what has it to do with this topic?

The decal is not real for pre '62. Covers appear to be chrome. Without context it is hard to say what they may be, but they most likely are modern era replicas. The covers seem to lack the sharp corners of the 57 Classic and other paf varients such as Burstbuckers so that raises questions. It would be helpful to them without covers to see bobbins and wire for further clues to its identity.

As of now 57 Classics seems a good guess. What's the story?
Sorry if I came off as an ass. I was just desperately looking for info and yes I noticed the rounded corners the mesh type wire seems to be correct. I dunno but I know it has no tool marks that indicate pre 62 THANK YOU
 

123sg

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Question about waffle tuners. LPCNSGC are they standard with the early 70s I see a lot of Les Paul customsWith barrel tuners is this a swap out?
 
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