McCartney's 1960 Burst - Serial No. 0 1182

[Guitar Whiskey]

What is definitely NOT original to Macca's Les is the knobs. Reflectors were not used on the LP until the 7000 series.

The only other Lefty Burst I know of (apart from the ones already mentioned in this thread) is Don Stroup's 0 1504
which is seen in the BOTB book (pg 162).
It was ordered in Jan 1960 and delivered in May. Looks exactly like a '59 in all respects, but pretty much plaintop.
:] Fish

What about lefty 0 1475; it has reflectors too. Could it be some of these lefties got built to later specs but issued earlier serial numbers? Could it be that lefties got reflectors early just to be different or because the numbers on the knobs ran clockwise rather than counter clockwise? I don't know how diligent Gibson was with keeping the numbering sequential or how much they went out of their way to make a lefty guitar functionally accurate.

 

[guitarvoodoo]

What about lefty 0 1475; it has reflectors too

Yes, I was looking at that. But that also has reflectors that may not be original. The very early reflectors, both gold and black ones during 1960-1961 looked different in profile, they had a short pot shaft hole (didn't go so deep up into the knob) and the hole went as far down as the skirt edge. I have a number of such knobs lying around, plus many of the later type.

The 6th pic of 0 1475 on BurstSerial at
http://burstserial.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=album&var1=1959%2F9+0136/&var2=2
shows the later type. Distinct difference. This type was used 62-70s.

:] Fish

 

[Guitar Whiskey]

Yes, I was looking at that. But that also has reflectors that may not be original. The very early reflectors, both gold and black ones during 1960-1961 looked different in profile, they had a short pot shaft hole (didn't go so deep up into the knob) and the hole went as far down as the skirt edge. I have a number of such knobs lying around, plus many of the later type.

The 6th pic of 0 1475 on BurstSerial at
http://burstserial.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=album&var1=1959%2F9+0136/&var2=2
shows the later type. Distinct difference. This type was used 62-70s.

:] Fish

Yes I see what you mean, thanks.

 

[Tom Wittrock]

The first run of LP's in 1960 had the same basic specs, finish and parts as the '59 and it wasn't until the later 7000 series that the ketchup finish, reflectors and double ring tuners came into the picture.
2 reasons for the changes: a last attempt to make the LP sell, as Gibson was disappointed with sales of the model and had almost given up on it. And unfortunately they did, as we all know.
The new finish had to do with complaints that the '58 and '59 Bursts were losing far too much color far too fast and Gibson started using 'better' (but much redder) pigment.
So the '60 Bursts are really 2 different series during the same calender year.
I'm sure most of you know this stuff , but here's all the info in one place :ganz

:] Fish

It was never so simple as to place them in merely two categories. They changed each feature at different times, and the red "non-fading" finish showed up before the 7000 series. It did show up in the 1400 series, even though the 2000 series showed the fading red.
Also, there is no evidence any changes were done as a way to boost sales, except the change in red finishses. All other changes were not exclusive to Les Pauls....the knobs, keys, and neck shape.

There is evidence that these numbers may not be sequential as we often want to believe.

 

[omni43]

would have sounded interesting with three guitars and no bass...:hmm

No bass? Don't let that scare you my friend; let that liberate you. The gypsy's had no home and The Doors had no bass. KITH

 

[DucRyder]

No bass? Don't let that scare you my friend; let that liberate you. The gypsy's had no home and The Doors had no bass. KITH

Nah, The Doors always used a studio Bass player and Ray played Bass parts with his left hand live. Also congrats on reviving a 17 year old thread ...

Album	Bass Player(s)	Notable Tracks
The Doors (1967)	Larry Knechtel	"Light My Fire," "Back Door Man"
Strange Days (1967)	Doug Lubahn	"People Are Strange," "Love Me Two Times"
Waiting For the Sun (1968)	Doug Lubahn, Leroy Vinnegar	"Spanish Caravan," "The Unknown Soldier"
The Soft Parade (1969)	Doug Lubahn, Harvey Brooks	"Touch Me," "The Soft Parade"
Morrison Hotel (197)	Lonnie Mack, Ray Neopolitan	"Roadhouse Blues," "Maggie M'Gill"
L.A. Woman (1971)	Jerry Scheff	"Riders on the Storm," "L.A. Woman"