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My new GoldTop

JJC

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Well...not quite. I mentioned this in a previous thread and am now ready to post my own thread about it. (And I'm guessing it could be my last).
Below is a photo of my '76 LP that I got in college 27 years ago. Being a 21-year-old idiot and being heavily influenced by many guitarists during that time, I wired in the phase and split-coil switches on the top. Yup, a real hack job. The good news is this was the dumbest thing I did in my twenties. So cut me some slack.

Anyway, here it was years later and I felt like I couldn't play the guitar out - I felt like it had a sign on it that said "I'm with Stupid" (me). So this summer I decided to order up a couple rattle-cans from ReRanch, fill the holes and turn it into a Goldtop. Now the sign is smaller. Here are the before and after shots (that's my daughter playing it before the refinish):

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I made some mistakes, but I think it came out pretty good. Now let me preemptively respond to a couple comments I know I'm gonna get:

Comment: Dude, you're an idiot for putting those switches in! Answer: Yes, I believe I already stated that clearly. BTW, I put in a push-pull pot. I love the out-of-phase sound and wanted to keep it. Wish I had done it that way back then, but there was no internet and you couldn't buy them in a store where I live.

Comment: I liked the sunburst better. Answer: So did I. See above.

Comment: I think you should have left it. (sigh).
 

Mondoslug

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I think it looks great guy...plus entertaining reading.
The daughter also looks pretty focused. You need to hook her up on Classical Guitar. She's got great technique in the making.
 

Manolian

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:wahLooks good to me , more importantly how does it play,and sound?
 

JJC

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Mondoslug - thanks. She actually gave up on guitar and got into violin and, most recently, flute - which she has excelled at. We've got a few traditional Irish songs worked out between us.

Manolian - I actually prefer my '05 because this one has a VERY thin neck - I prefer the thicker 50's on the '05 because my hand doesn't cramp up. It does sound good, though. And I'll never sell it - too much sentimental value (wouldn't matter after what I've done to it). Oh, and I haven't touched the '05. Never again. :)
 

Last LP

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I think that the refinish came out nice!

Any pics of the back?

I also liked it the way it was before too. It had a story behind it. Now, though it looks better (depending on your view & opinions) it's just another GT.

I do like to both ways though I'm curious as to what "problems/issues" you had during the refinish?

I refinish guitars for fun. Certainly not for money as I resell them when I'm done & I'm lucky to get what I've got in them. Not counting all my time & countless hours of sanding & polishing.

I've never put it out on paper but I'll bet I'm making (-$7.00) an hour. :rofl
 

JJC

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I think that the refinish came out nice!

Any pics of the back?

I also liked it the way it was before too. It had a story behind it. Now, though it looks better (depending on your view & opinions) it's just another GT.

I do like to both ways though I'm curious as to what "problems/issues" you had during the refinish?

I refinish guitars for fun. Certainly not for money as I resell them when I'm done & I'm lucky to get what I've got in them. Not counting all my time & countless hours of sanding & polishing.

I've never put it out on paper but I'll bet I'm making (-$7.00) an hour. :rofl

We're on the same pay scale, Last LP - although I think you're doing better than me. I thought a long time about the "story" behind it, and maybe you're right. But it's not *quite* like the rest of the Goldtops out there because it still has the sunburst back, sides, and neck - I left those as-is, complete with worn spots, gouges, playing wear, etc. I'll try and post a pic of the back when I get some daylight.

I ran into trouble with the Gold paint in that it shows every little flaw - I had some low spots after sanding down the filler. They didn't show in the primer phase but you could clearly see them with the gold. So I ended up drop filling with nitro-lacquer. Then I had a weird spot where it looked like that section was kind of flat compared with the curve of the body. I corrected this by re-sanding across the top behind the tailpiece and overspraying again with the gold and then the lacquer. I knocked a mosquito right into it and had a tough time sanding him out. When I was scraping the binding I accidentally went a little bit into the gold and hit primer (I said the hell with fixing that, though - I saw the potential of making it worse).

The big mistake I made was using auto-body filler. I found out later that it might do funny things under the lacquer as time goes on. But I can always redo it all over again. It was a lot of fun as I'm sure you've found. Have you ever done any LP's and do you have any pics?
 

Jover

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I think she looks fantastic! :salude Like others, I hope you post additional pictures of the sides and back.
 

stock_hippie

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cool move...on ebay the sellers really hack lp deluxes..but then the dont fix them back up like you did...youre is way cool and a haeck of a lot cooler than one with that kahler unit...!!!k33p rockin in the free world!!
 

Kutt

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I've heard that goldtop paint is more difficult to work with than other finishes. I was at the Carvin factory last year and a sales guy in the showroom commented that the guys in their finishing department think it's a pain in the buttocks to work with.

Yours looks great from the pics above.
 

JJC

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Thanks, everyone. Jover and Last LP asked for some back and side photos - so here they are:

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An expert will of course know that a true Goldtop doesn't have this type of finish on the back. But I think aesthetically it still works and I didn't want to eliminate the wear that I had earned. Kutt, it definitely was tough to work with - but it was also very educational.
 

Kutt

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Look at it this way, when you're a famous rock star it will be an industry first- a relic'ed signature model that's TWO colors! "The JJC Signtaure Model, now available from the Gibson Custom Shop. Limited to 200 pieces worldwide."
 

JJC

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Look at it this way, when you're a famous rock star it will be an industry first- a relic'ed signature model that's TWO colors! "The JJC Signtaure Model, now available from the Gibson Custom Shop. Limited to 200 pieces worldwide."

:rofl :rofl :rofl

My rock star chances are long gone. And I'm okay with that. In fact, since my daughter graces the first picture, I got a little story for you - one that many on this forum can probably relate to.

While I'm a rock musician in my regular band, I sometimes run sound for an Irish band and occasionally sit in with them when their guitarist can't make a gig. One afternoon they were playing in an Irish pub near our local ski resort. After an afternoon of skiing, my daughter and I went to watch them and she brought her flute. They called her up on stage to play a song with them. All of my good moments on stage (granted, that's not many) rolled into one could not compare to the feeling I had when that noisy Irish pub went dead quiet as this little girl began playing - and then absolutely erupted into applause when she was finished. I'll never forget that.

Sorry to digress and get off topic - hope the mods are forgiving.
 

J T

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Nice gold top! Great effort, Hey maybe you can do the back in all darkback. The burst on back looks a little strange on a goldtop to me.
 
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