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NGD Les Paul Standard '50s

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Nice guitars! Yea, your November is closer to mine when I see it in that light, just a different flame pattern. My flames don’t really go into the dark portions and are more wavy / curly flame. Yea, I like the pups in that guitar, lots of mid range. The bourbon busts is a beaut. I think we are chasing the dragon a bit with these LPs! I am contemplating getting another LP as well. I don’t need it for sure but have an obsession. Want an unburst style with a good flame pattern. I’m thinking about selling my first LP, which is a 91 LP classic - sunburst. It’s a great guitar but it has a very thin neck.

When I was about to try my Slash, I thought for sure I was swapping the pickups. I plugged it in and decided on the spot the pups were staying. I usually prefer lower output humbuckers, more PAF inspired. I knew the ones on the Slash were just a bit higher output, hence why I thought I’d end up swapping them, but these pups are amazing. So versatile and articulate with absolutely zero mud. Not a bad sound in them. They can do everything. I had a pair of uncovered PAF style bare knuckles at the ready and everything.
 
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Interesting. My November burst is quite different looking. Mine reminds me more of maple syrup burst Les Paul from Gibson Custom. I think they were R9s.


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That's a beautiful guitar, I still kinda want a November burst.
 

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Thanks! I ended up getting the November from an independent guitar store in the Midwest, purchased without playing it! They had lots of great pics on reverb and the guy sent me several phone pics too that had more everyday lighting. I had looked at several at other shops but chose mine based on the color / flame pattern. My honey burst is really cool too but the pics don’t do it justice. It was fairly unique to have a honey burst with a flame top but with a 50s neck. I’m obsessed
 
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Thanks! I ended up getting the November from an independent guitar store in the Midwest, purchased without playing it! They had lots of great pics on reverb and the guy sent me several phone pics too that had more everyday lighting. I had looked at several at other shops but chose mine based on the color / flame pattern. My honey burst is really cool too but the pics don’t do it justice. It was fairly unique to have a honey burst with a flame top but with a 50s neck. I’m obsessed
I'm really enjoying my guitar too. At some point I'm going put some Slash Seymour Duncans in it.
 

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I'm really enjoying my guitar too. At some point I'm going put some Slash Seymour Duncans in it.
Yea, I actually had a set of those in my honey burst for a while but came across a set of “shashbuckers” and put those in for now. I kind of prefer them to the SD slash’s but they are pretty close to be honest. It might be different depending on what amp and volume you’re playing. I play at low volume at home through a little Yamaha THR10 modeling amp. It’s an incredible little amp for bedroom volumes.
 

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I also prefer the Gibson Slash pickups to the SD alternative. The SD is relatively more mid scooped in comparison to Gibson’s. The mids on the Gibson are just amazing, which is what makes me prefer the Gibson over SD. I’ve played with mine both at low volumes with a THR as well, and at full band volumes. Sounds phenomenal at low volumes, but even better a loud volumes. Because of the wonderful mids, I don’t have to turn my amp up to where everyone in a 10miles radius start bleeding through their ears. I can cut through the mix at relatively comfortable volumes.
 

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Awesome! The THR is such a great amp for home use. I like to get a slashy type tone but also just kind of dirty Marshall tones for bluesy rock stuff. That cool that you ply our in a band setting. What kind of music do you guys play? I’d love to be able to crank up an amp sometime. I’ve got some young kids so it’s pretty much backing track nights for me! Here is my YouTube channel. Haha had it for like 15 years at this point.
 

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That was awesome! I need to record more. Every time I see that red dot I start messing up because I striving for perfection. I play anything rock. If it were up to me I’d play more Led Zeppelin in a band setting, but thats too challenging for the vocalist I play with, totally understandable. We play Cream, AC/DC, Clapton, ZZ Top, Aerosmith, Slash etc. From Slash we like to play by the sword and back from cali. When I’m playing by myself, apart from that style I delve into a little bit o jazz among other things. I haven’t played in a band setting since the pandemic first hit, but I miss it.

You nailed the tone with the THR. That’s amazing. I really like how the finish on you November Burst turned out. Lots of character. I‘ve seen a couple examples that were a bit to tobacco burst, and less bourbon. Anyways, those THR and this pickup can do it all. Nice playing too.

Edit: Is that the solo to Anastasia? I really like that song. Possibly my favorite from Slash, including his work with GnR.
 

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That was awesome! I need to record more. Every time I see that red dot I start messing up because I striving for perfection. I play anything rock. If it were up to me I’d play more Led Zeppelin in a band setting, but thats too challenging for the vocalist I play with, totally understandable. We play Cream, AC/DC, Clapton, ZZ Top, Aerosmith, Slash etc. From Slash we like to play by the sword and back from cali. When I’m playing by myself, apart from that style I delve into a little bit o jazz among other things. I haven’t played in a band setting since the pandemic first hit, but I miss it.

You nailed the tone with the THR. That’s amazing. I really like how the finish on you November Burst turned out. Lots of character. I‘ve seen a couple examples that were a bit to tobacco burst, and less bourbon. Anyways, those THR and this pickup can do it all. Nice playing too.

Edit: Is that the solo to Anastasia? I really like that song. Possibly my favorite from Slash, including his work with GnR
Hey thanks. Yea the THR coupled with those pickups really can get some nice tones. Definitely can get a sound that approximates the slash tones from the GnR days. Zeppelin is awesome, I have only recently kind of delved a bit deeper into them. I’m in my late 40s. Growing up I was into a lot of punk stuff but went through a big GnR phase in the late 80s when I was first really getting into playing. Went through a big SRV phase in college. Despite playing for a long time I have at times gone many many years without playing. I really got back into it over the last couple years and have progressed quite a bit , in large part due to all the content on YouTube! So many great players teaching cool stuff that I used to just figure out by ear or would get stuck.

And yea recording yourself is hard! I start thinking too much and end up making dumb mistakes. I usually have to do a few takes before I get one that’s pretty decent, but it’s always harder when you know it’s recording. I honestly didn’t even know the Anastasia solo at all and wasn’t all that familiar with the song but found that track with the lead guitar removed so I just kind of did my own thing, which was obviously very slashy ha. Sometimes I post stuff simply for the challenge of trying to capture a good take when being recorded.
 
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Hey thanks. Yea the THR coupled with those pickups really can get some nice tones. Definitely can get a sound that approximates the slash tones from the GnR days. Zeppelin is awesome, I have only recently kind of delved a bit deeper into them. I’m in my late 40s. Growing up I was into a lot of punk stuff but went through a big GnR phase in the late 80s when I was first really getting into playing. Went through a big SRV phase in college. Despite playing for a long time I have at times gone many many years without playing. I really got back into it over the last couple years and have progressed quite a bit , in large part due to all the content on YouTube! So many great players teaching cool stuff that I used to just figure out by ear or would get stuck.

And yea recording yourself is hard! I start thinking too much and end up making dumb mistakes. I usually have to do a few takes before I get one that’s pretty decent, but it’s always harder when you know it’s recording. I honestly didn’t even know the Anastasia solo at all and wasn’t all that familiar with the song but found that track with the lead guitar removed so I just kind of did my own thing, which was obviously very slashy ha. Sometimes I post stuff simply for the challenge of trying to capture a good take when being recorded.

I’m in my early 40s, but got really into Zep when I started playing guitar. I obviously knew and recognize them, however, I only became truly “obsessed” with them after I challenged myself to learn black dog. At my age, I just missed Led Zeppelin window, but as my grandfather used to say, mediocre music ages, while good music never dies, it’s good music forever. before I got into Led Zeppelin, I liked GnR a lot, but my favorite band was Dire Straits. Interestingly, I kew of Knopfler‘s strat stuff, but he was in part who got me into Les Paul with money for nothing and brothers in arms. Of his newer stuff I really like Song for Sony Liston, which lo and behold, played with his ‘58 LP.

The funny thing about recording is that I get overly fearful of making mistakes while recording, but not when a play with and/or in front of others. Which then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, in that I end up being too tight and more prone for mistakes. I have a friend I used to play with who moved abroad, but we’re still in touch. I get excited about a new guitar or new amp, or pedal or what have you, and I take loads of takes to send a 1 min recording. He’s a much better guitarist than myself, so I feel extra self conscious. I end up not muting a string very well for a bend of a solo, I mess up the time, ghost notes, sloppy notes, wrong notes, etc. The funny thing is some of these mistakes I don’t make if I’m just noodling while watching a game or some show on tv.
 

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I’m in my early 40s, but got really into Zep when I started playing guitar. I obviously knew and recognize them, however, I only became truly “obsessed” with them after I challenged myself to learn black dog. At my age, I just missed Led Zeppelin window, but as my grandfather used to say, mediocre music ages, while good music never dies, it’s good music forever. before I got into Led Zeppelin, I liked GnR a lot, but my favorite band was Dire Straits. Interestingly, I kew of Knopfler‘s strat stuff, but he was in part who got me into Les Paul with money for nothing and brothers in arms. Of his newer stuff I really like Song for Sony Liston, which lo and behold, played with his ‘58 LP.

The funny thing about recording is that I get overly fearful of making mistakes while recording, but not when a play with and/or in front of others. Which then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, in that I end up being too tight and more prone for mistakes. I have a friend I used to play with who moved abroad, but we’re still in touch. I get excited about a new guitar or new amp, or pedal or what have you, and I take loads of takes to send a 1 min recording. He’s a much better guitarist than myself, so I feel extra self conscious. I end up not muting a string very well for a bend of a solo, I mess up the time, ghost notes, sloppy notes, wrong notes, etc. The funny thing is some of these mistakes I don’t make if I’m just noodling while watching a game or some show on tv.
Stop trying to do a take perfectly from start to finish. do 4 or 5 takes of the same thing then cut and paste the best parts.
 

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I’m in my early 40s, but got really into Zep when I started playing guitar. I obviously knew and recognize them, however, I only became truly “obsessed” with them after I challenged myself to learn black dog. At my age, I just missed Led Zeppelin window, but as my grandfather used to say, mediocre music ages, while good music never dies, it’s good music forever. before I got into Led Zeppelin, I liked GnR a lot, but my favorite band was Dire Straits. Interestingly, I kew of Knopfler‘s strat stuff, but he was in part who got me into Les Paul with money for nothing and brothers in arms. Of his newer stuff I really like Song for Sony Liston, which lo and behold, played with his ‘58 LP.

The funny thing about recording is that I get overly fearful of making mistakes while recording, but not when a play with and/or in front of others. Which then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, in that I end up being too tight and more prone for mistakes. I have a friend I used to play with who moved abroad, but we’re still in touch. I get excited about a new guitar or new amp, or pedal or what have you, and I take loads of takes to send a 1 min recording. He’s a much better guitarist than myself, so I feel extra self conscious. I end up not muting a string very well for a bend of a solo, I mess up the time, ghost notes, sloppy notes, wrong notes, etc. The funny thing is some of these mistakes I don’t make if I’m just noodling while watching a game or some show on tv.
Yea man, nerves can really manifest is some surprising ways. But I can imagine in some respects the pressure is a bit less when playing live because it’s in the moment with a whole band and the energy you feel maybe overrides the impulse to be perfect. In contrast when you press record you know you’re going to go back and listen to and ever mistake will be there waiting for you ha. Oh top of that we can all probably be our harshest critics as well. I record myself a lot with audio just to listen back and see if I sound good and if my bends are in tune or if my vibrato sucks. Definitely a good learning tool. Ever watch any of Brett Pappa’s stuff on YouTube?

Yea zeppelin is cool. I was pretty much growing up in the 80s and early 90s so zeppelin was like “classic rock” to me back then. I do like them a lot now. I like GnR but honestly like slash more than axl. His vocal style is not my favorite. Actually preferred Scott Weiland in velvet revolver. As a teenager I could not play most of the solos on appetite for destruction so it’s been fun to learn to play like that from watching YouTube!
 
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