sws1
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yes. ted is a real patriot, loves his country. he is ok in my book
"HIS" being the operative word.
yes. ted is a real patriot, loves his country. he is ok in my book
I'm in my sixties and possibly due to this bloody pandemic don't play anywhere near the amount of time playing that I used to. It's hard to get the same motivation knowing that a gig or rehearsal is still a fair way off.This actually brings up an interesting thought. I don't have a burst, but I have a 50's goldtop and a 50's Jr (and other guitars and amps). If I sold them all I could improve my funds for retirement. But taking the steps to sell them, I don't think I could do it. The thought of "I'll probably not live for much longer and wont enjoy these" is super depressing. If I have the good luck to grow old, I don't think I could make that choice. If anyone in their 60's have made that choice, I'd be interested to hear your opinions.
Thanks for that perspective. Sounds very logical. I don't want a collection either, but as of now I can't see ever letting go of the 57 Jr and 55 GT, they are the only "objects" along with a good amp that I enjoy. But on the other hand, the fire one had as a teenager playing guitar (with crap equipment, cause kids have no money) is long gone, and I doubt it will return. Too bad the kid version of oneself cannot play what the adult version will ownI'm in my sixties and possibly due to this bloody pandemic don't play anywhere near the amount of time playing that I used to. It's hard to get the same motivation knowing that a gig or rehearsal is still a fair way off.
A First World problem - I've only a small collection of guitars that aren't worth too much but I see them hanging about and wonder why I them. They will also prove a problem when I pass on as my grown up kids already have guitars and amps.
If I had a large collection I'd be moving a lot of them on purely for the hassle it may cause others in the future. However, If I had a Burst I'd sell it, buy a R9 and pass most of the money to my kids
I could easily live with one of my Telecasters with an amp.
this will be interesting, seems like the 59 should be worth 200k even with changed pickups etc? 20 or 30k in parts and would it be basically original again? (except for possible tuner screw holes) i feel like anything over a couple hundred grand will be what teds ownership and use of the guitar adds in value. he is the motor city madman,"HIS" being the operative word.
Supposedly, Twiggs swapped Gregg a car for it.Duane did NOT do that. Twiggs Lyndon (who was watching over the guitar after Duane died) did that to save the original frets.
Me too, i,m a boomer, not sure when the dust settles how much time i will have left to go out gigging again.maybe just ditch my analog recording stuff, learn to use a simple pro tools set up and try writing and recording.I'm in my sixties and possibly due to this bloody pandemic don't play anywhere near the amount of time playing that I used to. It's hard to get the same motivation knowing that a gig or rehearsal is still a fair way off.
A First World problem - I've only a small collection of guitars that aren't worth too much but I see them hanging about and wonder why I them. They will also prove a problem when I pass on as my grown up kids already have guitars and amps.
If I had a large collection I'd be moving a lot of them on purely for the hassle it may cause others in the future. However, If I had a Burst I'd sell it, buy a R9 and pass most of the money to my kids
I could easily live with one of my Telecasters with an amp.
true, however a burst may last 100's of years. better to leave my family the strad of guitars than green backs they will have to figure out what to do with. and they wont need the cash. my family i made sure would be ok when i,m gone before i ever pulled the trigger on dream gear. of course now i,m old and worn out, not fair! lolDon't keep that ace up your sleeve too long. Old age doesn't last.
........... However, If I had a Burst I'd sell it, buy a R9 and pass most of the money to my kids ......
Depending on what you have in the burst (for instance, bought in the early 70s), considering capitol gains taxes, if you've owned the guitar since before the value explosion, likely better to give (will) them (the kids) the guitar and let them sell it. Since they're receiving it at current "basis value", capitol gains when they sell it are minimized. That's all well and good, so long as you don't need the funds that are wrapped up in the burst in your lifetime. Paying 28% of the value of a Burst is for the privilege to sell a guitar you bought as a kid for $1,000 is indeed painful. My 59 is riding into the sunset with me, just not going into the coffin.
Nuge's bursts look like they were ridden hard and put away wet. I'm sure they have his name engraved in them somewhere like all his other guitars.
Yes, definitely. Growing up a decade before you, Nugent was THE biggest and largest grossing act in the 1970s. And just as Paul McCartney taught bass players how to be a rock bass player on stage, Ted Nugent taught rock guitarists how to play rock guitar on stage. There was - and is - noone like him in the music business.He definitely adds celebrity. Whether you like him or not. Not on the level of a Clapton Page or Beck, but as a kid growing up in the 70's and 80's he was a guitar god of sorts. Had some cool stuff. My band used to cover Free for All and Great White Buffalo. His name wont make it a 500k guitar though.
On one of his Spirit Campfire shows on YouTube, he says he has way too much stuff and proceeds will go to his Kamp for Kids and other charities. Since the '60s, he's always been involved with children charities like Ronald McDonald House, Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, among many others including his Kamp for Kids. As well as many Veteran charities and Feed the Hungry programs. He really does have a huge heart and everyone who's met him walk away with an entirely different opinion of him (Anthony Bourdain, et al).Anyone know WHY he is selling all this stuff? Just a house cleaning or something more interesting?
Totally agree with you. And as far as the current cancel culture it’s ridiculous. I never made a friend because of their politic. Nor should you be judged or omitted because of them. I am truly tired of everyones feelings getting hurt. I would never intentionally set out to offend someone but no one cared about my feelings growing up and I lived!Yes, definitely. Growing up a decade before you, Nugent was THE biggest and largest grossing act in the 1970s. And just as Paul McCartney taught bass players how to be a rock bass player on stage, Ted Nugent taught rock guitarists how to play rock guitar on stage. There was - and is - noone like him in the music business.
As for his politics - yes, he is an outspoken critic of the current PC culture. He is a populist and an ardent supporter of our Bill of Rights. Those on the far left despise him for his views, those in the middle and far right generally support his views. But despise him or love him, he remains one of Rock's all-time guitar greats. And the stories of him having dressing room guitar duals with other famous guitarists - including Jimi Hendrix - are legendary all to themselves.
And it's just wrong the far left folks at the R&R HOF does not recognize Nugent for his guitar genius. To put one-hit wonder Joan Jett on their Top 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list and intentionally omit Nugent, Robin Trower, Joe Satriani, etc all because of their political and/or faith beliefs is just wrong. Robin Trower ranks right up at the top along with with BB King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, and SRV as one of the all-time blues guitar greats.
I think the auction site is just a sales platform and likely don't have that info on hand. I'd imagine they have to forward the questions to Ted/his agent/his tech and then wait back.the auction company said to email with questions on their sight. i wrote a few days ago with several questions pertaining to originality, also if the case is original, does a pickguard come with it. etc etc. i havent heard back.
this is a big red flag for me, the guitar may even have been broken for all we know, they are silent.
as much as ted jumped around i wouldnt be surprised at all if there are structural repairs.
i want to bid, they are giving me no choice but not to. could be a broken refin with all changed parts in an ibanez case. something here doesnt pass the smell test.
well the '58 went for 275K and the '59 for 300K so I guess carving the initials didn't do too much financial damage ... good for TedAnybody else heard of a person carving their name in a 1958-59 les paul Standard???
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