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patching worn frets

hewo

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i tried patching grooves in worn frets using steel reinforced epoxy modified with diamond dust, about 20/80 mixture diamond dust / steel epoxy

i ruined my crowning diamond s shaped crowning file

so i purchased 2 more because of accelerated wearing during crowning

still it is cheaper than legacy overhauling plus fret grooves patched won't need repatching, ever again

instead strings replacement occurs frequently, weekly

i looked at the grooves on the underside of the strings realizing that's why frets are nickel copper 20/80

i use the fattest roundwound pure nickel wrap over the skinniest hex backbone for wonderful harmonics

summing it all up, is patchwork good or junk?
 

hewo

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maybe poor man's path leads to glory?
the string's underside gets clobbered now
but fret patch unscathed forever
result aim is no buzzing
i achieve it
but string underside is compromised early
 

PaulD

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Based on UK prices the cost of a professional re-fret is typically around £200 and the cost of a set of strings is around £9. Changing strings weekly means that after 23 weeks you will have spent more than a re-fret would have cost (hopefully the re-fret would last a bit longer than that!)
 

hewo

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pure nickel roundwound on hex spine chews in 1 day, since iron wrap isn't there. iron roundwound wrap is much more resistant getting chewn by diamond patchings. sound of iron wrapping soars output & brilliance. old ears like mine are very sensitive. so, stick w/pure nickel. Averting scalped costings, i must purchase strings from our foe worldwide where pricing is one sixth of America's. from research knowledge acquired in curing wear & abrasion of the sintered carbides (production stops changing cutting bits automotive industry costing expense lost productivity) mirror polishing significantly averts premature wearing. but i'm not gonna mirror polish those patches. continuance of string underside grooving eventually shall taper off analogous to changing old fashion record player needles that become polished
 

hewo

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the aged custom is very old but solid, 2.25" bloated body, the refret cost 1000 with no guarantee of success because of the construction processes way back, resorcinol (?) hide (?), so it's better spent on custom shop construction using present day processes, meanwhile carry on with freebie style but don't let out the detail process, silver patching anneals not smart, cyanoacrylate weakling patch, diamond wins
 

zacknorton

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New frets. every time. What you're describing sounds like an upside down solution. Way more difficult than replacing frets... and not a better result.

MAYBE... maybe...MAYBE... I'd try something like this for a patch on a low fret on a 59 burst to keep it playable before the inevitable full re-fret.

I do like the idea....
 

hewo

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it is the confidence of never having a recurrence ever again. logically. do not spend furthered effort, money, and time addressing & curing worn frets. that barbed tang slot, by the forced upward displacement to disengage, will never be the same, sonically (heated & stretched open)
 

hewo

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Not to envy nor covet authoritarianism
You understand your demeanor
The reality, no worries anymore,
Ravined frets
 

charliechitlins

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There is no good excuse for repairing frets.
They are a wear-and-tear part meant to be replaced when worn.
I supposed if I had one guitar, it had a badly damaged fret and I had a gig in a couple hours, I'd consider repairing a fret with silver solder.
It's very hard and melts at relatively low temperature.
I'd be nervous about scorching or otherwise burning the fretboard...and I'm very used to using it.
 

Dave P

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I personally would give it a refret. Replacing the worn frets is another option. Trying to fix divots is a very temporary fix at best
 

charliechitlins

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Is this a very old guitar with "bulbs" on the bottom of the tang, so frets need to be driven out from the side?
 

gmann

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Sounds like it’s more trouble than it’s worth!
 

Norton

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Do not question the genius of our mechanical overlords.
 
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