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L.A.Man

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Well, if you know that there is at least one bandit here, please share? I want to know who to stay away from.....:)
 

Steven

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Well, if you know that there is at least one bandit here, please share? I want to know who to stay away from.....:)

Well, I should have used the word 'guess'.
But hey, I'll may be wrong and ev'rybody can be trusted ?
Nothing better.
 

L.A.Man

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I'm just goofing on you, believe me there are quite a few bandits here I am one of them. Want to buy my ross for 12k? See....bandit.
 
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This particular Rossington definitley has some issues-
It would be a better idea for him to restore it
and then sell off the other parts as suggested-
Really unfortunate that the original pickups and electronics are "missing".

Also no direct info regarding if there are any repairs or breaks-
beyond the obvious mods (Bigsby, Screws etc)
And no photos w Bigsby on / off -
current pup covers etc
just seems curiously rushed.
 
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Steven

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Want to buy my ross for 12k? See....bandit.

Nups, I have already got one , # 198.

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L.A.Man

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If I was in the market for a Ross, and did not want to pay the going rate for a stock guitar, this would be a great alternative.

I would sell the truss rod cover, the grovers and the PAF. If you got 1500 for all of those parts, conservatively speaking, you would be into the guitar for under 3k.

Unfortunately the Bigsby holes can be a deal killer, but thats just me.
 

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-Les-...e-/300671028874?pt=Guitar&hash=item460163ce8a

Here ya go, looks like ol browneyes is selling his modified Rossington. 4200 with a bunch of changes. Maybe a chance to get into a Ross for shorter money. If anything this will be a wake up to what changing parts does to value.

It will be nice to see where this ends up. I agree, no mods that arent reversible will get the premium price. Lets see.

I know this Guitar... And I have worked on it Alot... I can tell yous alot obout the seller and what he clams.
 

Todd Louis

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The mod's on this guitar I have made. Many years back.
The 50's parts hes claming are not 50's parts..

They are 61/62' Parts and the PAF is in fact a Pat # from a 61' LP/SG
I even have a clip of me plaing it with the PU tru my HW plexi
 

Todd Louis

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This particular Rossington definitley has some issues-
It would be a better idea for him to restore it
and then sell off the other parts as suggested-
Really unfortunate that the original pickups and electronics are "missing".

Also no direct info regarding if there are any repairs or breaks-
beyond the obvious mods (Bigsby, Screws etc)
And no photos w Bigsby on / off -
current pup covers etc
just seems curiously rushed.
Yous can E mail me if yous want any info on the seller and the Guitar.

He is in NYC so it is lagit I would gess.
But I have not seen this man for 3 years now... For resons.
 

27sauce

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I know this Guitar... And I have worked on it Alot... I can tell yous alot obout the seller and what he clams.

Wow, I hadnt thought about that guy in while! What happened to you guys? You were like peas and carrots, I thought anyway...
 

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This particular Rossington definitley has some issues-
It would be a better idea for him to restore it
and then sell off the other parts as suggested-
Really unfortunate that the original pickups and electronics are "missing".

Also no direct info regarding if there are any repairs or breaks-
beyond the obvious mods (Bigsby, Screws etc)
And no photos w Bigsby on / off -
current pup covers etc
just seems curiously rushed.

Sir - and I am quoting you from another Rossington thread - just trying to understand when you went from saying that this is the best of the best, to "This particular Rossington definitley has some issues" - inquiring minds need to know what you talking 'bout Willis......:ganz


Well let's start w the Pups-
you mentioned that they were vintage PAF-
do you know what guitar(s) they originated from??

imho GR #199 had a very balanced tone-
could hear the natural fundamental core of each note-
describe it as tight lows and mid PUNCH - w/nice air in the highs-
not overly or artifically agressive - yet sweet & tough -

The neck was classic "nicely broken in- '58" contour:
Wide Vibrato Maximus-
Think early Mick Taylor meets Miles Davis on this one.
(every note counts- bend until happy)

Now.... on to the Murphy Magic ...
WHATEVER HE DID - (and he ain't tellin' via email) - WORKS!!
The End result??
Ultra Smoooooth Neck Response - no dead notes / Insane Sustain / and aged Keef leather boots BFF Vibe.

btw- Murph did mention that he thought the tops on these were really hard wood-
which he believed really helped w/ the TONE-

Cool Runnin' Machine
jam on

I played Browneyes Rossington and I can confirm it is one of the best amongst the best-
His guitar has a very pure Fundemental present in the tone-
This is also a characteristic of the great Pups he has in there.
As I was comparing four different Rossington's that afternoon -
I kept returning to his Ross as a frame of pure reference.
 

axeman565758

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Yous can E mail me if yous want any info on the seller and the Guitar.

He is in NYC so it is lagit I would gess.
But I have not seen this man for 3 years now... For resons.

Todd, check your aol email...I sent you a PM....and I accidently deleted your new email address from the other day
Dave
 
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Just wish he had not tampered with it-
Bigsby- Replaced Pups- Replaced hardware- Replaced Electronics etc
Difficult to establish a price after those mods.

Since I have not seen nor played this Rossi in a number of years.
my main concern is if it has endured any serious cracks or repairs since I last played it?
I have not received a complete answer regarding that question-
and that troubles me- also only one old photo -prior to Bigsby-
But perhaps he is too busy right now to provide complete answers.

All this aside: it was once a very good instrument- and may still be.
 
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In all fairness to Browneyes-
if this guitar has not been cracked or damaged
then this could be a very good deal.
 
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marshall1987

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The original pickups are missing -
and are not included in this "deal"
Just gonna say this once for facts sake:
no argument intended or desired:
imho The Rossington pickups are a key component of the Rossington tone.
I am NOT saying the current pups are not good-
Just that this "deal" is missing a key component of what these guitars are known for.
I have played over 15 DIFFERENT Rossingtons (including this one)
and imho the pickups make a big difference- for better or worse.

Yup. IMO the Rossington Les Paul Burstbuckers are not your run-of-the-mill Gibson humbucking pickups. My observations:

1. They are un-potted and slightly microphonic.

2. They are slightly overwound compared to stock Burstbucker 2's and 3's.

3. The gold plating is practically worn off the nickel-silver covers during aging.

This results in a very strong, dynamic PAF style pickup; with more emphasis in the lows and mid's, and slightly attenuated in the highs. Sort of like the sound of Gary Rossington's solos! Thick, rich, and soulful.

Coincidence?
 

Todd Louis

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In all fairness to Browneyes-
if this guitar has not been cracked or damaged
then this could be a very good deal.
The Guitar was not bad....
And I've played it ALOT and worked on it ALOT....

I have plenty of Pic's with and with out Bigs.

The only damage that I know of would be burn marks and extra aging that was done buy him not me.
 
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