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Say Good Bye to Mom & Pop Guitar Shops

pauldeluxe

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This has got to be a huge blow to small, independent shops that sell a lot of entry-level guitars.

Check out this story from the Monday, June 20, edition of the City Paper in Nashville:

Gibson cues up for mass market
By Chris Lewis, clewis@nashvillecitypaper.com
June 15, 2005

In the music world, the Gibson brand has been associated with high-end, professional-grade instruments traditionally sold in music stores. Now the 110-year-old manufacturer is branching out into the mass market.

Nashville-based Gibson Guitar Corp. is debuting a new line of entry-level musical instruments to be sold in "big box" retail outlets that carry everything from toiletries and CDs to furniture and vacuum cleaners.

Though Gibson already has sold its Epiphone brand products in some retail outlets besides music stores, it has now created its first division focused solely on mass-merchant accounts.

The company has lined up several large retailers to start selling guitars, band instruments, drums and amplifiers this summer, said Henry Juszkiewicz, Gibson's chairman and chief executive officer. He declined to disclose the retailers at this point.

To achieve the price range of $50 to $200, which he called the "sweet spot" for mass merchandising, the company is having its instruments made in China, where it already has a manufacturing plant to handle its Epiphone line, which has been its lower-priced brand, selling at $500 and up.

Gibson is among several instrument makers contributing to a resurgence in the mass-marketing of instruments. Early in the 20th century, people could buy instruments ranging from Silvertone guitars to large pianos in department stores such as Sears & Roebuck.

"It really [went] out of fashion in retailing, and almost the only instrument that was sold [in the mass market] was Casio keyboards," Juszkiewicz said. "But I would say over the last five years, as music has become apparently more lucrative and a little more stable, retailers started experimenting with musical instruments outside of just the small keyboards. And I personally have noticed guitars in such unusual places as CompUSA."

Gibson is entering a market blazed recently by First Act, a seven-year-old Boston company that sells a variety of instruments, including guitars and band instruments, starting at about $150, in stores such as Wal-Mart and Sam's Club.

"We do feel like First Act is a pioneer in that retail space," said Jeff Walker, First Act's vice president of marketing. "It has always helped us establish our mission, which is making playing music more accessible and affordable to the thousands and millions of Americans who ordinarily wouldn't have been able to play music."

Juszkiewicz said a large segment of consumers are often intimidated by the thought of going into a music store.

"Most parents do shop at Target or Wal-Mart or Toys R Us, so we are making music instruments at the beginners level accessible, giving them that choice," he said. "In fact, I think with the pricing you can get an instrument and test a child's aptitude and liking for music for less than a video game console. So it makes it a very low-risk sort of decision."

To underscore the division's commitment to music education, Gibson has arranged to donate a percentage of its sales of the new product line to five organizations: the National Foundation for the Advancement of the Arts, Music Educators National Conference, The Grammy Foundation, VH1 Save the Music Foundation, and Music Teachers National Association.

Apparently, making music in the United States has never been more popular. Sales of musical instruments and products in 2004 hit an all-time high of $7.35 billion last year, according to the International Music Products Association (NAMM).

The fastest riser has been guitars, with sales of acoustic guitars surging 38.6 percent from 2003 to 2004 and electric guitar sales rising 43.5 percent during the same period.

"Basically, guitars are sufficiently inexpensive that they have an impulse quality that they never did before," said Brian Majeski, editor in chief of Music Trades magazine, noting that Fender has begun selling products in Costco.

Not everyone, however, is embracing the mass-marketing of instruments with open arms.

"The feeling amongst the music product industry is a good-news, bad-news situation," Scott Robertson, NAMM spokesman, said. "I think the industry is split about it, much in the way they're split about a lot of things, like selling music products on the Internet."

George Gruhn, proprietor of Gruhn Guitars on Broadway in Nashville, says he's not worried because he caters to high-end customers. But he predicts other music store owners will have a mixed to negative reaction to Gibson's strategy.

"I think many other retailers do sell student-model introductory guitars, and they resent having the companies, such as Gibson, supplying better deals on cheaper stuff to stores such as Wal-Mart," he said.

Majeski believes music stores have nothing to worry about, as the new products target a different market. "Our sense on this mass-marketing stuff in the big channels is that it hasn't really had much of an impact on the traditional MI [musical instrument] business," he said.

Juszkiewicz said the average new retail account will carry between three and 10 product types, each branded specifically for that retailer. Gibson's name will be only on the box as manufacturer, he said, so as to avoid confusion with Gibson brands sold in traditional outlets.

As it prepares to launch the new line, Gibson is in search of a new site in Nashville for a major distribution facility for it. "One of the things we're going to be looking for is the ability to expand pretty rapidly," Juszkiewicz said, "because this could be huge."
 

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You know what? This may sound a little radical, but I hope Gibson branches out like hell, produces shit (so our LP's will skyrocket in price), goes bankrupt, Henry is forced to sell, and someone who is only interested in making quality guitars, without wanting to be a global industrialist mogol, buys the company.
 

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Unfortunately, mass production and quantity sales is where the $$$ is.
 

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"I think many other retailers do sell student-model introductory guitars, and they resent having the companies, such as Gibson, supplying better deals on cheaper stuff to stores such as Wal-Mart," he said.

The really care about people and finding budding musicians don't they. What a wonderful company Gibson is.

Though its said that if you are just starting out buy a cheapo guitar. Thing is that never works....it plays ansd sounds like shit so you never do play it and never do fall in love with music because you are so frustrated trying to play shit.

So...........Gibson does care.............about getting that loose change in your pocket!
 

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Well, no matter how you look at it, to keep making quality guitars, you've got to be making lots of money.
 

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I saw a "get dad a Gibson for Fathers Day" TV commercial on the Spike Channel last night. Took me by surprise a little bit.
 

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Henry is pushing product to the "end user" or "consumer", not an instrument to the musician.

Instead of producing widgets, he's producing guitars. He's looking for profit. Kind of takes the romance out of it, don't ya think?


I wouldn't be surprised if we've seen the high point in the historic LP line. There'll still be some good ones, but the bloom is off the rose, so to speak.
 

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CharlieS said:
Henry is pushing product to the "end user" or "consumer", not an instrument to the musician.

Instead of producing widgets, he's producing guitars. He's looking for profit. Kind of takes the romance out of it, don't ya think?


I wouldn't be surprised if we've seen the high point in the historic LP line. There'll still be some good ones, but the bloom is off the rose, so to speak.

I would take that bet :)
Gibson has too many marketing professionals with too many researching departments. You really think if they sell cheap guitars with huge profit margins it will cost them any business?
Not a chance!
Gibson is smart, getting the profit from the low end will allow them to use that cash and create new projects. No not all of them purists will agree with, but at the end of the day the dollar is king. If you don't want it, and I don't want it I am sure a bunch of guys in Japan will be more then happy to buy them and pay top dollar.
The boom is far from over, the supplies are almost gone and you haven't seen anything yet. I will bet prices sky rocket in the next decade, your 5K historic might cost you 3X as much and be half as nice, just my opinion.
 

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JofZ said:
I would take that bet :)
Gibson has too many marketing professionals with too many researching departments. You really think if they sell cheap guitars with huge profit margins it will cost them any business?
Not a chance!
So did Coca Cola in 1985.
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With soda pop or guitars, branding is critical. If Gibson follows through with this, their brand will be hugely diluted. IMO this is a huge mistake by Gibson's Marketing department and top management.
 

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Isn't Gibson just following Martin's example? In the last 10 years, Martin has brought out a whole slew of budget models, and those budget lines are now Martin's most profitable and biggest selling guitars.

I know that purists will argue that Martin's brand has certainly been diluted. In fact, I'm one of those purists. To me, owning a Martin has lost a lot of its luster now that any kid in 8th grade can buy one after mowing lawns for a summer.

I know that's silly of me to think that. But I'm just being truthful.
 

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pauldeluxe said:
Isn't Gibson just following Martin's example? In the last 10 years, Martin has brought out a whole slew of budget models, and those budget lines are now Martin's most profitable and biggest selling guitars.

I know that purists will argue that Martin's brand has certainly been diluted. In fact, I'm one of those purists. To me, owning a Martin has lost a lot of its luster now that any kid in 8th grade can buy one after mowing lawns for a summer.

I know that's silly of me to think that. But I'm just being truthful.
This is true assuming the Gibson logo is on the headstock. From the article I'm just assuming that the low price point instruments that are being discussed will carry the Gibson name. If they're planning on marketing them under a new name(s) it won't hurt them nearly as much from a branding POV (like you mentioned, Martin's entry level Sigma line; I agree it's hurt Martin's rep for the purists, but most non-players, ie. potential entry level buyers, have no idea that Sigma is owned by Martin, or don't really care). But if they stick a Gibson logo decal on cheap crap, they will probably regret it in the long run.
 

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History shows this is NOTHING NEW. Gibson made the guitars for mass-market brands like Recording King/Ward (sold in Montgomery Ward department stores), Spiegel, SS Stewart, even some Washburns. Read the Gruhn book for details.
 

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Heritage 80 said:
This is true assuming the Gibson logo is on the headstock. From the article I'm just assuming that the low price point instruments that are being discussed will carry the Gibson name. If they're planning on marketing them under a new name(s) it won't hurt them nearly as much from a branding POV (like you mentioned, Martin's entry level Sigma line; I agree it's hurt Martin's rep for the purists, but most non-players, ie. potential entry level buyers, have no idea that Sigma is owned by Martin, or don't really care). But if they stick a Gibson logo decal on cheap crap, they will probably regret it in the long run.

Actually, I'm referring to Martin budget models that bear the Martin name, not Sigmas. I mean the Martins that are now made from laminated woods, the DX guitars and other cheap models. 99 percent of people looking at those cheap Martins couldn't tell them apart from an HD-28 or one of the high-end models. Guitarists would know the difference, but nobody else would.

I'm not meaning to knock budget Martins. They may be fine guitars for beginners, for all I know. But considering how cheap they are, I'll assume they're nowhere near as good as the expensive Martins.
 

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And today is Coke in any financial trouble?
Gibson will not be negativly affected by this move, if it would hurt them then selling epiphones would have already done to their image what you are suggesting a $200 guitar being sold at Walmart will do. I don't buy it, this is for kids, parents and music programs that are being cut in every public school in this country. Someone needs to step up and save music from extinction, and it looks like Gibson is doing the right thing. If you guys would stop for one second and think about the kids it would make all the sense in the world. No one cares about 5k guitars, not even most players, these are dream axes and they will always be dream axes. Very few will ever be able to buy them and that will never change.
This is a huge positive and I am happy Gibson is doing it.
If I had the extra cash I would buy a bunch of those 200 buck axes and give them away to kids in inner cities, that is what will SAVE Gibson in the future, more musicans wanting guitars. THINK about it!
 

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JofZ said:
And today is Coke in any financial trouble?
I doubt it. But remember that they dropped the "New Coke" like a hot potato just months after introduction due to the huge negative response from the public.
 

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Hey look !!! Henry is a member of the LPF !!!!



JofZ said:
And today is Coke in any financial trouble?
Gibson will not be negativly affected by this move, if it would hurt them then selling epiphones would have already done to their image what you are suggesting a $200 guitar being sold at Walmart will do. I don't buy it, this is for kids, parents and music programs that are being cut in every public school in this country. Someone needs to step up and save music from extinction, and it looks like Gibson is doing the right thing. If you guys would stop for one second and think about the kids it would make all the sense in the world. No one cares about 5k guitars, not even most players, these are dream axes and they will always be dream axes. Very few will ever be able to buy them and that will never change.
This is a huge positive and I am happy Gibson is doing it.
If I had the extra cash I would buy a bunch of those 200 buck axes and give them away to kids in inner cities, that is what will SAVE Gibson in the future, more musicans wanting guitars. THINK about it!


just kidding with ya' , JofZ
 

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No worries :)
I would love to see Gibson donate a % of earnings of these low end axes to fund music programs. Maybe we could all live with that?
 

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JofZ said:
No worries :)
I would love to see Gibson donate a % of earnings of these low end axes to fund music programs. Maybe we could all live with that?

I think WE can all live with it, but I doubt that owners of small, independent guitar shops can live with it.

Your point about Gibson's low-budget guitars allowing less-than-wealthy kids to discover music is a good one. But why can't Gibson use its already existing network of guitar outlets to sell the guitars? Does Gibson need to sell them through Wal-Mart and Target and in the process, crush the Mom & Pops?

I don't for one second think that Gibson cares one whit about "saving the music" or any of that nonsense. They're doing this because they see big dollar signs in it. They're a business. They care about the bottom line.

"This is for kids"???? No, it's for dollars. But hey, that's free enterprise. I don't expect Gibson to do anything for altruistic reasons.
 
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