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schooling on neck tenons

guitarscrub

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Educate me on why there are such differences in the long tenon. I see some that have a gap some that do not. Some kinda pointed others more squared. I know that they are hand fitted but I would think there would be some uniformity to the process of fitting the neck. Here are a couple of pics Thanks
 

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Wilko

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Those are two different styles and periods of builds. almost all original style "long tenon" guitars have that same shape as your sunburst pic on the right. they are all cut by machine, very little hand fitting.
DIfferences were more pronounced during the period 1968 through about 1975 when that style of construction changed from what we at the LPF call long tenon, transitional, and short tenon (not yet the rocker tenon).
after the 90s there are a lot different styles of tenons as they have different build types. The type of your blue pic is one of the CNC made wider tenons. many of the newer styles are far superior to the short/rocker tenons as they have square cuts that offer much better glueing/contact areas. The sound/feel of those guitars can be right up there with the original "long tenon"
 

DutchRay

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Pic 1 does not look like it's from the historic reissue series. The 2nd pic looks like an R8/9 tenon. The R0 tenon is rounder, not as pointy.
We want historic accuracy so we get what some would consider inferior built techniques. (read out loud in darth sidious voice!)
 

DutchRay

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It might be the angle of the picture but pic1 doesn't look anything like my '07 CR8 tenon, which is nearly identical to pic2. After 2010 Gibson has updated the historic line a couple of times, most noticeable with the True Historic guitars but I don't think they made significant changes to the shape of the tenon. Maybe it's the layers of color combined with the angle of the picture that make it look different?
 

El Gringo

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Pic 1 does not look like it's from the historic reissue series. The 2nd pic looks like an R8/9 tenon. The R0 tenon is rounder, not as pointy.
We want historic accuracy so we get what some would consider inferior built techniques. (read out loud in darth sidious voice!)
Ah the Emperor voice . A long long time ago in a distant galaxy !
 

El Gringo

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the blue one is a 2010 LP-R7 Candy apple blue
Is the Candy apple blue R7 more resonant ? The reason I ask is that it looks like a tight fit in the tenon to the body = more resonant ? I can feel the vibration in my left hand and imagine the tone is awesome right ?
 
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