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GastonG

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Gibson's Senior Director of Product Development responds to reports of Murphy Lab lacquer issues
https://guitar.com/features/gibson-mat-koehler-memphis-to-nashville/

Mat Koehler rides again... "important that our dealers and fans fully acclimate their instrument in its case when changing climates/temperatures… I would say at least five hours, minimum. Just like you would with vintage 1950s instruments." ?????????????????????????????
Huh ? :oops:
 

goldtop0

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Thanks for posting Gaston an interesting read.
So what it says to me is.......when your guitar arrives at your store let it sit in its case for 5 hours before opening. Quizzical stuff.
I've got a M2M 335 in the mix and it'll take 2-3 days travel and customs clearance from the US to get to me once it's done..........I'm covered ;)
 

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Thanks for posting Gaston an interesting read.
So what it says to me is.......when your guitar arrives at your store let it sit in its case for 5 hours before opening. Quizzical stuff.
I've got a M2M 335 in the mix and it'll take 2-3 days travel and customs clearance from the US to get to me once it's done..........I'm covered ;)
I'm gonna start a rumour that you Southern Hemisphere Lads have to wait at least a year before you open the case, starting the moment it clears customs. Otherwise the neck'll fall off...

It'll make more sense than the nonsense being committed to print.
 

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Gibson's Senior Director of Product Development responds to reports of Murphy Lab lacquer issues
https://guitar.com/features/gibson-mat-koehler-memphis-to-nashville/

Mat Koehler rides again... "important that our dealers and fans fully acclimate their instrument in its case when changing climates/temperatures… I would say at least five hours, minimum. Just like you would with vintage 1950s instruments." ?????????????????????????????
Huh ? :oops:
That's rich ( Mat Koehler )
 

goldtop0

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I'm gonna start a rumour that you Southern Hemisphere Lads have to wait at least a year before you open the case, starting the moment it clears customs. Otherwise the neck'll fall off...

It'll make more sense than the nonsense being committed to print.

For sure Paul, it amuses me when we read stuff like this, as in Gaston's post.
Reality with facts, commonsense, being the determining factors... and we're seeing less and less of these things this day and age unfortunatelyo_O
 

GastonG

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Did many years of touring all over the province of Québec at sometimes -30 during winter, with 59's Gibson guitars (burst 9 0910 and my Korina "V" 9 0973). Never waited 5 hours before opening the cases (pure nonsense !!!!!).
Never had flake issues on my guitars.
I saw pictures of Slash's burst 9 0910 from last years, no flake on this Sunburst finish after more than 60 years ! The back and sides of 9 0910 is still the same as when I was the owner (late '70s to 1982).

Gaston ⚜️
 

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i'm never going to open my case again!!!!!! think of all the flakes i will be saving!!!!!!:oops:.....not to mention ..... the money i will save on strings......too.......(y)
 

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I've seen my fair share of old guitars where the finish has completely checked and literally fallen off in large patches due to all of the temperature and humidity changes year after year compounded by normal use. We demand historical accuracy. When we don't get it we complain. When we get it we complain. Seems Gibson can't please everyone.
 

sweiger

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I call BS on that explanation.
Having had plenty of vintage Gibsons during the past 20+ years, in a climate with cold winters and hot summers, the only guitar prone to flaking off the finish "the Murphy way", was my '72 Telecaster. Fenders from that period are likely to flake due to the thick poly finish of that period.

Subtle checking on Gibsons yes, but never flaking off like (some of) these ML guitars.
And I did NOT wait 5 hrs. before opening the case :)
 

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I've had many vintage Gibson's over the last 50 years. Of course we didn't call the "Vintage".. they were just "old or Used" guitars until the whole craze hit in the 90's.. I never saw paint flake, but I have had a number of early Melody Makers with heavy checking and I actually have a `61 MM-D (single cut) with almost no checking at all..
 

ourmaninthenorth

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Ok, what if the finish on the cases start to flake off? I'll just leave everything in the box.
Yeah that'll work...until the acclimation notice warning ( now apparently being made more prominent for the hard of thinking/reading/seeing/not giving a shit....et al ) on the box falls off.

Wrong ink apparently, and the cardboard is a bit moody.

Oh and it's all your fault the print's gone south for reading the notice in the first place.

Pesky customers......
 

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It would be nice to see some pictures of the problem in order to see exactly what the complaint is
 
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