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fernieite

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Well, I just ordered a set from Tyler yesterday. Looking forward to trying them out! (y)
 

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I'm interested to hear what others use for pot/cap readings as these can be customized? I've never really thought about it and it looks like you need to ask.

Primarily, I play blues and am using the Seymour Duncan/Bonamassa '59 handwounds on my the R8 in my profile. Still seeking better sound.
 

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It’s 1958Teaburst haha maybe that’s why people said their messages wouldn’t go through 🤷‍♂️
Hi Tyler,

I just tried to PM you (@1958teaburst) but it says "You may not start a conversation with the following recipients: 1958teaburst."

You don't even have a "start conversation" box in your profile.

Maybe you should check your forum preferences or contact the Admin to see what's up?
 
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RossL

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All, I have a 2019 R9 Anniversary. I thought the pots, caps, harness and pickups we’re supposed to be “clones” of the originals? Or not?
 

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All, I have a 2019 R9 Anniversary. I thought the pots, caps, harness and pickups we’re supposed to be “clones” of the originals? Or not?
The pickups are not clones, but Gibson is working on it. The pots are not clones either and the wire they use are also wrong. But the caps are good🤣😁👍
 

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The pickups are not clones, but Gibson is working on it. The pots are not clones either and the wire they use are also wrong. But the caps are good🤣😁👍
In 2032, 80 yr anniversary of the Les Paul? That’s when everything will be cloned for a perfect match. In 2040 it will be an exact match of 1958. Then 2041 for the 59 and 2042 for the 60. Making them the most sought after Les paul reissues to date. Most of the baby boomers and cork sniffers will be dead so price reductions and sales to ensue.
 

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As far as I know, a pot is a variable resistor.
Are there actually QUALITIES of resistance, not just quantities?
It seems to me that one pot dialed to, say 250k ohm of resistance would sound the same as another dialed to the same.
Could someone explain this to me?
 

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As far as I know, a pot is a variable resistor.
Are there actually QUALITIES of resistance, not just quantities?
It seems to me that one pot dialed to, say 250k ohm of resistance would sound the same as another dialed to the same.
Could someone explain this to me?
As far as I know, a pot is a variable resistor.
Are there actually QUALITIES of resistance, not just quantities?
It seems to me that one pot dialed to, say 250k ohm of resistance would sound the same as another dialed to the same.
Could someone explain this to me?
Well some people claim to hear the difference between all of these? Carbon comp, carbon film resistors, metal oxide film and wire-wound resistors. So maybe there’s truth to it?

But then again some claim to hear the diff between actual 59 and reissue. And while a small percent possibly can? Most can’t. But hearing is subjective. What one perceives as sweet sounding another perceives as harsh. No 2 ears are the same. So to say oh CTS vintage pots are where ALL the sound comes from? Creates THE tone? I’m gonna call BS. And even if it does? Most couldn’t tell the difference so it’s all moot anyway!

Here’s the thing with this MUST GET THE EXACT TONE OF A 59 Les paul: 99% aren’t famous musicians these days. You don’t need it and guitar music is less than today then it was 50-60yrs ago….
 
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Tyler goes by 1958teaburst on here guys if you want to get up with him! I edited this. It’s 1958tburst
Call me naïve because I am. Seems like a lot of money for these. And the new Historic Les Paul will sound like it has a blanket over it? Meant for the OP
 

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"Your Hearing May Vary" Last summer the wildfire smoke cause my inner ears to fill up with fluid. I could not walk, lost my balance, barfed like I did in high school. I am still trying to get all of this muck in my ears to drain. It changed my hearing drastically. I lost the high frequencies, but they are slowly coming back. Week to week I am amazed at what I can now hear again. What I am getting at is there is a vast difference in people's hearing, like Wizard noted above. Awfully hard to quantify. But, if it feels good and the money is not a problem then go for it.
 

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Color me interested. I always thought it was considered mutilation to alter a historic Les Paul according to the Hippocratic oath but, I might do it to save lives. True but tongue and cheek. Are there any examples that I could listen to? Knowing full well that It will not be the same as if I were playing myself.
 

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Color me interested. I always thought it was considered mutilation to alter a historic Les Paul according to the Hippocratic oath but, I might do it to save lives. True but tongue and cheek. Are there any examples that I could listen to? Knowing full well that It will not be the same as if I were playing myself.
Tell that to all the guys making a good living ripping fretboards off historics doing makeovers. Nobody scoffs at the price of a good set of pickups. People pay $400-$600 for a bridge. When it comes to arguably the most important factor in your tone, the price becomes ridiculous. The prices of original harnesses are through the roof($1000-2000), they have drifted into ranges that are borderline unusable(750-800k, .040+) and will need a rebuild in the near future. Remember a $225k burst is the sum of its very expensive parts, these included. I don’t even know of a company selling new parts that offers the kind of custom specs offered with these pots+caps. For those that know, the price isn’t even a question. There is a limited supply of these and when those who don’t know realize what they missed out on, it will be too late.
 

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"Your Hearing May Vary" Last summer the wildfire smoke cause my inner ears to fill up with fluid. I could not walk, lost my balance, barfed like I did in high school. I am still trying to get all of this muck in my ears to drain. It changed my hearing drastically. I lost the high frequencies, but they are slowly coming back. Week to week I am amazed at what I can now hear again. What I am getting at is there is a vast difference in people's hearing, like Wizard noted above. Awfully hard to quantify. But, if it feels good and the money is not a problem then go for it.
Most astute.

I have a hearing defect due to scaring from measles when I was 5.

Because of this (described as "cookie bite" hearing) I could always hear low and high frequencies the same as you, but because they were almost all I could hear I notice things most people don't. It's not that YOU don't hear them, but YOUR BRAIN filters them out.

Walking down the street I can tell you who has what electronics on.

You probably could hear it too, but your brain is wired to hear more frequencies so it does not dwell on what I hear or filters it out to save your sanity.

To most people I am nearly deaf. Vocals have been out of my register for so long, now that I have hearing aids which give me back those frequencies my brain does not process it correctly all the time.

So 70-75% deaf with aboot a 60% comprehension.

A lot of peeps think I am an idiot. (Some are sure of it!)

I choose to enjoy that which I can hear. Caps are one thing that make a difference to ME.

So: hearing IS quite different and can lead to a very interesting life, and VERY different perceptions.
 
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Tell that to all the guys making a good living ripping fretboards off historics doing makeovers. Nobody scoffs at the price of a good set of pickups. People pay $400-$600 for a bridge. When it comes to arguably the most important factor in your tone, the price becomes ridiculous. The prices of original harnesses are through the roof($1000-2000), they have drifted into ranges that are borderline unusable(750-800k, .040+) and will need a rebuild in the near future. Remember a $225k burst is the sum of its very expensive parts, these included. I don’t even know of a company selling new parts that offers the kind of custom specs offered with these pots+caps. For those that know, the price isn’t even a question. There is a limited supply of these and when those who don’t know realize what they missed out on, it will be too late.
So...the most important factor in your tone is, arguably, your wiring harness?
I have a very hard time believing this, especially when considering pickups, amp/speakers and the player.
On the other hand, I think it's really interesting to be wrong in the process of learning something new.
Does anybody have A/B recordings?
 
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