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What are your favourite speakers for Marshall amps?

rufes

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Personally I like Heritage Greenbaks the best except for Jubes. They sound better with V30s IMO

What about you?
 

dtw576

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Cast frame Fanes in a Hiwatt 4x12 (early to mid 70's) are particularly agressive sounding with a nonmastervolume Marshall, then G12H30's (well broken in). I want to try the Heritage G12H30's and Scumback equivalent but haven't had the chance yet. Fanes really win hands down for me though.

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j45

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Out of dozens, and dozens, (and probably more dozens) I've tried over the years, here's my "Top 5".

1. Pre-Rola G12H - 30w - *IF* you can find them, and with original cones, the search will be over forever and forever....

2. Pre-Rola 25w - "THE" classic Marshall sound. (the one in your head)

3. Celestion Gold - my favorite modern speaker with most tight/gainy amps. *Require break-in...brutally tight when new but once broken in they have more character of voice than any five modern speakers combined. Yes, they are a little expensive but you get what you pay for.

4. Celestion Heritage Series Greenback G12H - They did an amazing job on these "reissues". Also, well worth the money and a huge improvement over stock greenbacks.

5. Mojotone British Series 25w - Best bang for the buck with a vintage Marshall amp than any speaker I've heard. When fully broken in can sound IDENTICAL to the late 60's pre-Rola 25w G12M.
 

rufes

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Out of dozens, and dozens, (and probably more dozens) I've tried over the years, here's my "Top 5".

1. Pre-Rola G12H - 30w - *IF* you can find them, and with original cones, the search will be over forever and forever....

2. Pre-Rola 25w - "THE" classic Marshall sound. (the one in your head)

3. Celestion Gold - my favorite modern speaker with most tight/gainy amps. *Require break-in...brutally tight when new but once broken in they have more character of voice than any five modern speakers combined. Yes, they are a little expensive but you get what you pay for.

4. Celestion Heritage Series Greenback G12H - They did an amazing job on these "reissues". Also, well worth the money and a huge improvement over stock greenbacks.

5. Mojotone British Series 25w - Best bang for the buck with a vintage Marshall amp than any speaker I've heard. When fully broken in can sound IDENTICAL to the late 60's pre-Rola 25w G12M.

Very interesting as usual.

Are Those Gold similar to the Alnico Blues? (tonewise)
 

DoubleBoogie

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Out of dozens, and dozens, (and probably more dozens) I've tried over the years, here's my "Top 5".

1. Pre-Rola G12H - 30w - *IF* you can find them, and with original cones, the search will be over forever and forever.....

I certainly don't have the experience you do, but I think they sound amazing too. I now have a full stack of basketweave cabinets with these speakers in them. I definitely got lucky in acquiring these...

I was lucky enough to get a '68 angle top basketweave cabinet (from a music store in SC believe it or not off of e-bay), that had 3 original unmolested 30W Pre-Rola's in it. Exceptionally clean with metal handles and a back only retolex job and replacement logo. I paid a whopping $560! Less than 3 months later, I found a 30W Pre-Rola with the same cone code and dated the same month and year as my three and bought it for $240 to complete the set. How lucky was that?!?!?

The following year, I found a matched quad of Pre-Rola 30W speakers dated also to 1968 with the same original cones and bought them for $800 off of e-bay. They checked out fine and I was going to keep them as spares but found an empty 68 bottom cabinet that was exceptionally clean as well. I bought it for $1200 and voila' a complete stack of '68 basketweave cabinets with '68 unmolested Pre-Rola 30W speakers for the grand total of $2800.

I have a 73 PTP wired 50 Watt big box head that I have hooked up to this rig and it sounds amazing....

With all that said though, I also recently acquired an old 8x10 basketweave cabinet and I have to say that I am loving this one too. IMO, those old 10 inch speaker are a great match for the JTM45 and was wondering if you had ever tried them...
 

Pimmie

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25 watt black cab's, no doubt....after that the pre-rola's.. :salude
 

shakti

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Lots of things I like...

G12M25 Pulsonic cone - probably my all-around favourite. I prefer these over G12H30 by a hair, but they're both great in slightly different ways. The ones I have are 55Hz cones and there's not a shrill frequency in sight.

G12H30 Pulsonic cone - same as above. Also 55Hz cones.

JBL D120 in an open back cab is a cool flavour, but can be a little grating over time. Very touch-sensitive and much more hi-fi than Celestion. Can be harsh, but respond really well to playing style, so you can actually offset that with the right technique.

Cerwin Vega ER123 - like a cross between Celestion and JBL. Really amazing speakers - clear and open-sounding like a JBL, but with a different (and to my ears more pleasant) upper mid spike, but tight bass and woody mids like a Celestion. When you push them, watch out for *incredible* harmonics and touch-sensitivity. I prefer these in a closed back cab.

Scumbacks are fantastic pre-Rola Celestion clones, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to replace my pre-Rolas with these if need be. I have a pair of alnico Scumnicos on the way in a Bluesbreaker cab, that will be interesting. And Jim Seavall is putting the finishing touches on clones of the early G12M20 and G12H25 paper voice coil/Kurt-Mueller "1777" lead cone speaker clones! That will be very interesting - the G12M20s are what you'd find in mid-66 pinstripe cabs like Clapton's "Fresh Cream" stack, and the G12H25 in the earliest "100" logo cabs like Jimi's first Marshall stack.
 

sickboy79

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I like my pre-Chinese reissue Greenbacks!!


Same here! I've got a mid 70s Marshall 4x12 with the original G12H30 "Blackbacks" with the 55hZ bass response that are probably my favorites. But, I do indeed like the GB RIs (British and China made) a lot as well. The G12H30 RI is a great speakers as well. I've also got some "Creamback" G12Ms from the around 73 or so that are smokin as well! I like Celestions with just about any amp - Fenders, Matchless, Bad Cat, Divided By 13, insert cool amp here! My personal favorites.
 

roadrunner

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Out of dozens, and dozens, (and probably more dozens) I've tried over the years, here's my "Top 5".

1. Pre-Rola G12H - 30w - *IF* you can find them, and with original cones, the search will be over forever and forever....

2. Pre-Rola 25w - "THE" classic Marshall sound. (the one in your head)

3. Celestion Gold - my favorite modern speaker with most tight/gainy amps. *Require break-in...brutally tight when new but once broken in they have more character of voice than any five modern speakers combined. Yes, they are a little expensive but you get what you pay for.

4. Celestion Heritage Series Greenback G12H - They did an amazing job on these "reissues". Also, well worth the money and a huge improvement over stock greenbacks.

5. Mojotone British Series 25w - Best bang for the buck with a vintage Marshall amp than any speaker I've heard. When fully broken in can sound IDENTICAL to the late 60's pre-Rola 25w G12M.


All great pics here. #2 is a G12M, 25watt?

For new speakers I like the Scumbacks, especially the H series, either the 55 or 75 cones. The Scumnico's just about the most dead on reissue AlNiCo speaker I've ever heard... I don't know how they did that thing so right... it's downright scary sounding.
 

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I have used JBL D 120s since 1974. In my best sounding cab, a 1971 angled cab, I have 4 factory 16 ohm speaks.
 

jamisonlps

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65 watt Scumback M75!!! I also really, really like the Eminence Private Jacks. The Heritage G12-65 isn't too far behind as are the reissue greenbacks.
 

Thin_Lizzy

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Those in my 1978 cab are favourites:

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but I realy like those early 80s '75s' too. Much better than the later (white labelled) ones:

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mistersnappy

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Out of dozens, and dozens, (and probably more dozens) I've tried over the years, here's my "Top 5".

1. Pre-Rola G12H - 30w - *IF* you can find them, and with original cones, the search will be over forever and forever....

2. Pre-Rola 25w - "THE" classic Marshall sound. (the one in your head)

3. Celestion Gold - my favorite modern speaker with most tight/gainy amps. *Require break-in...brutally tight when new but once broken in they have more character of voice than any five modern speakers combined. Yes, they are a little expensive but you get what you pay for.

4. Celestion Heritage Series Greenback G12H - They did an amazing job on these "reissues". Also, well worth the money and a huge improvement over stock greenbacks.

5. Mojotone British Series 25w - Best bang for the buck with a vintage Marshall amp than any speaker I've heard. When fully broken in can sound IDENTICAL to the late 60's pre-Rola 25w G12M.

:salude Thanks J45- another thread to bookmark...
 
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