Clapton's amp Derek & Dominos live

[Kossoff_Fan]

Hello forum mates!

What was Eric Clapton's amp for the live Derek & the Dominos stuff?

Blackface Dual Showman, I think I've heard?

2 x 12" cabs or ???

Just curious - he sounds so great on the Fillmore CDs

Thanks,

James
Kossoff_Fan

 

[acquiesce]

yes i've seen shots where they were dual showmans. "Why does love have to be so sad" live is Killer!!! I'm amazed at the sustain he gets from his strat(brownie) and the showmans—which are pretty clean sounding amps.

 

[davebc]

Aren't the showman's basically Twins,only with a separate cab and no reverb? 80watts?(I should know this)
I agree that is one killer sounding rig.

 

[sixty2strat]

I saw one phot and he had a small box marshall. can't remember where I saw it. he did have fender cabs.

 

[RickN]

Aren't the showman's basically Twins,only with a separate cab and no reverb? 80watts?

I believe that's exactly right - same chassis, etc. Just different enclosures.

 

[Stu K]

Read an interview with Delaney Bramlett in a guitar mag some years ago where he mentioned Clapton using a tweed Champ as a preamp to a larger onstage rig - possibly some use of load r's and a line out divided down from the Champ speaker output. This may have been during the Delaney and Bonnie and Friends period though?

 

[rmconner80]

yes i've seen shots where they were dual showmans. "Why does love have to be so sad" live is Killer!!! I'm amazed at the sustain he gets from his strat(brownie) and the showmans—which are pretty clean sounding amps.

Les Pauls don't corner the market on sustain! Well, they sort of do, but a good Strat wound up through a BF Fender tends to get some great sing and feedback assisted sustain (even semi clean), believe it or not.

I had a Showman. I once (and only once!) turned it up to 9 (through my Marshall 412 with vintage 30s). Wow! Unbelievably big ragged bold mean tone! Definitely not what you'd expect.

 

[LHakim]

Someone on the forum saw Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac at the Boston Tea Party and he was using silverface Dual Showman ampsand thats exactly how I would describe Green's tone--"big ragged bold mean tone"--surprisingly aggressive amps when wound up.

 

[joen]

I found my copy of the "Layla" song book. There's a cou;ple of pictures of the Dominios on stage inside. In the first one EC is playing a Les Paul TV Special through what a Dual Showman Reverb head into a 2X15 cab. In the second one he's playing a black Les Paul Custom (P-90's). The same Dual Showman Reverb is there. There's also a blonde Bandmaster or Bassman sitting on top of 2 blonde 2X12 cabs. It's not a very clear picture, but it appears he's playing through the blonde Fender amp.

 

[Cottage]

Believe it or not, the newer Shomans with the big oversized cabs and D130s, always sounded better cranked that the older small cabs (too much baffling, I think). Matter of fact, any other cab with a Blackface (Tan or Silver) showman top would sound great IMHO.

 

[jimmyj]

I found my copy of the "Layla" song book. There's a cou;ple of pictures of the Dominios on stage inside. In the first one EC is playing a Les Paul TV Special through what a Dual Showman Reverb head into a 2X15 cab. In the second one he's playing a black Les Paul Custom (P-90's). The same Dual Showman Reverb is there. There's also a blonde Bandmaster or Bassman sitting on top of 2 blonde 2X12 cabs. It's not a very clear picture, but it appears he's playing through the blonde Fender amp.

Can you scan those pictures and post them?
I remember those pics in that book and I've been trying to find the picture of EC with the LP Special. I used to think the IN Concert album was him playing that Special because his tone was so fat but crisp. I guess it's Brownie but I'd still like to see the picture of him with the Special again.

 

[Wallstrafed]

In this pic, he is wearing the same outfit as in the live album pics. Appears to be using Sunn Colliseum amps (solid state). Maybe had a modded Champ plugged into it?

 

[Amp360]

In the early 00s, I took my SLO and a BF Dual Showman out on tour all the time. I know the DS and Twin are supposed to be the same, but I think the OTs are different, I could be wrong.

At any rate, it didn't sound like any Twin I've ever owned. Maybe the lack or reverb circuit or something? For all the booteek maps out there, the DS is super undervalued. I paid $350 for mine with a road case.

 

[MattD1960]

My guess having listened to a TON of Dominos stuff pretty much anything i can get my hands on, is , Strat thru a BF showman for the live stuff

the record is obviously that famous Strat Thru a Champ all wound up

 

[corpse]

Dual Showmans were the amp in the late 1960's and early 70's according to Big Al- the circuit is perfect or only requires the slightest of mods. There are a multitude he holds as precious and this one comes up often. Nobody touting them on the internet- and my harem is complete.

 

[Amp360]

100% most underrated map out there! I have one of those JCM Bass cabs with the 2x15 speakers and it's a killer pair!

 

[renderit]

Lust.
I had one of those for years with 2 cabs.
Sold it to buy a wedding ring...
Mine had the 15 JBL's as well.
Awesome amp.
Qualified as a weapon of mass destruction by the time you hit breakup though.
But that's what fuzz pedals were for.
Pure magic, I would love to have another.
I used this to get the killer sustain (if you were miles away to not get speaker-auto coupling).
Still have it...
It was plugged into the reverb-out (or was it the vibrato? ( 2 little RCA plugs on the back)) circuit in the back on mine.
I had the first year drip edge without master volume.
Pure magic, I would love to have another.

 

[corpse]

They are cheap and everywhere in the NE. I see one a month on CL in Boston. Well almost.

 

[corpse]

Ok- maybe Showman’s. Not the Dual.

 

[Amp360]

They are cheap and everywhere in the NE. I see one a month on CL in Boston. Well almost.

True! I bought mine when I lived in Boston!