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Bending ABR1 posts and doubled up thumbwheels

brandtkronholm

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For more info - leaning bridge posts is a different issue; this is when the wood gives way and the posts lean like the Leaning Tower of Pisa!
 

J.D.

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If the wood is giving way that's a completely different issue.

It's not terribly difficult to bend an ABR1 stud. One good knock inside the case against the lid can bend them. Whatever the case, they are cheap and easy to replace.

Extra thumbwheels have a better chance of leaving nice rings in the finish than solving the problem.

I'm personally not a fan of the "mapleflame" mod. More chance of damaging the guitar than improving anything. YMMV
 

El Gringo

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If the wood is giving way that's a completely different issue.

It's not terribly difficult to bend an ABR1 stud. One good knock inside the case against the lid can bend them. Whatever the case, they are cheap and easy to replace.

Extra thumbwheels have a better chance of leaving nice rings in the finish than solving the problem.

I'm personally not a fan of the "mapleflame" mod. More chance of damaging the guitar than improving anything. YMMV
Did Wildwood use this type of mod with the longer posts on there Wildwood 10's series of R guitars ?
 

brandtkronholm

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If the wood is giving way that's a completely different issue.

It's not terribly difficult to bend an ABR1 stud. One good knock inside the case against the lid can bend them. Whatever the case, they are cheap and easy to replace.

Extra thumbwheels have a better chance of leaving nice rings in the finish than solving the problem.

I'm personally not a fan of the "mapleflame" mod. More chance of damaging the guitar than improving anything. YMMV
My experience with bent bridge studs (never mine - whew!) has usually been the result of some in-case trauma.
If you travel with your instruments (tours, etc.) that "one good knock" is an inevitability!


Also, the OP's Les Paul looks pretty cool! I'd like to see more pictures of that top!
 
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ADP

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I have gathered the necessary information, thanks to you guys! Here is a better picture of the lean, and a shot of the exceptional top.


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If the wood is giving way that's a completely different issue.

It's not terribly difficult to bend an ABR1 stud. One good knock inside the case against the lid can bend them. Whatever the case, they are cheap and easy to replace.

Extra thumbwheels have a better chance of leaving nice rings in the finish than solving the problem.

I'm personally not a fan of the "mapleflame" mod. More chance of damaging the guitar than improving anything. YMMV
This exactly
 

ADP

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I would like to believe the metallurgy of the posts and thumbwheels make a tremendous difference in tonal transfer. Along with the abr-1 and saddles themselves, I feel like quality metal is the trick for that extra 2% on the acoustic side of things.

I have slipped back down the rabbit hole...
 

SoK66

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I learned the double thumbwheel trick about 50 years ago when I had an opportunity to meet Joe Walsh and saw his '60 up close. I use that trick on Gibsons with a neck angle that leaves a lot of post uncovered. Right now my '09 build '59 RI ES335 is set up that way, along with stainless steel studs. No worries.
 
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Wilko

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My belief is that posts bend because of way some people string their guitars and/or not removing all strings once in a while. The effect is cumulative.

I’ve never had an issue as the string pressure is fairly straight down. Always tuning the strings UP without ever getting the string off the saddle is what does it.
 

Gold Tone

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My belief is that posts bend because of way some people string their guitars and/or not removing all strings once in a while. The effect is cumulative.

I’ve never had an issue as the string pressure is fairly straight down. Always tuning the strings UP without ever getting the string off the saddle is what does it.
Absolutely this
 

ADP

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It likely happened from being bumped in the case. This guitar has toured the world.

I highly doubt regular tuning would cause the post to bend.
 
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