Custom shop pricing being higher than originals

[Wizard1183]

Any idea why custom models of oroginal guitars are more expensive than original? For instance a replica 1974 LPC Randy Rhoads. Guy on the verb asking $24k. Brand new they were around $6-8k. Or a 68 reissue. Why would someone pay more for a replica than an original? It floors me people are this dumb.

To me an original 68, or 74lpc would be in the 20k range while reissues would be 6-8k.

Just thinking out-loud here

 

[Torshalla]

Modern custom shop guitars are better built than norlins imo… a friend of mine loves norlins and has owned many originals and recent re issues and although he would love to prefer the vintage norlins, his experience is the custom shop are overall much better guitars (feel / tone / overall quality).
Also if you are refering to limited signature models then there is a collector aspect as well.

 

[vintage58]

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[El Gringo]

The Pandemic has reeked hell on all prices across the board as the supply chain has been disrupted severely thus making prices jump. Along with surging global oil prices and you get what you have now . Also worth mentioning is that from the Pandemic and the shutdown a lot of people were home and took up the guitar and instruments both new and used were flying out of the stores at a record pace . Supply and demand economics as they say . Retailers have been affected just like everyone else has with the shutdowns and restrictions . Look at all the cargo ships backed up in ports waiting to unload , you get a sense of the problem . I have a BOSS BF-3 Flanger pedal on order since early December which it's delivery date keeps getting delayed , as the new due date is 3/15 (we will keep our fingers crossed )

 

[Wizard1183]

Modern custom shop guitars are better built than norlins imo… a friend of mine loves norlins and has owned many originals and recent re issues and although he would love to prefer the vintage norlins, his experience is the custom shop are overall much better guitars (feel / tone / overall quality).
Also if you are refering to limited signature models then there is a collector aspect as well.

Built better? If that’s the case? 59 modern models should cost $1-3mil. I wouldn’t agree new feels better and tone is better than an original. Whether it be a 68, 70or 74.

Kalamazoo LPs definitely have better mahogany than now a days. I find it a bit ridiculous prices on modern reissues to have inflated 3x what an original would cost. You’re gonna tell me modern sells better than an original Ttop?

Collector aspect makes no sense. A collector would seek out original vs reissue. That Randy rhoads reissure won’t sell for more than 12k. Some of these models will eventually go down in value. As far as Norlins? Well most late 70s 80s rock was played on Norlins.

Idk? Find it ignorant to pay more for a replica then an original if original is cheaper.

 

[Torshalla]

It s all down ti what people are willing to pay i guess

 

[Pat Boyack]

Am I missing something? Complaing that a CS Les Paul being more expensive than the original price of the copy? Like an R8 costing more than a 1958 Les Paul in 1958?

 

[lesterchopper]

Should we talk Rolex now? Market rules.

 

[Wizard1183]

Am I missing something? Complaing that a CS Les Paul being more expensive than the original price of the copy? Like an R8 costing more than a 1958 Les Paul in 1958?

Just wondering why that is? No not necessarily 58-60 as there’s only like 600 accounted for. So rarity. However 68-74 isn’t exactly flooded in market. For instance a 74 LPC. Not sure how many are out there?But some are for sale. And glad ppl are asking quite a bit for them. However I find it ridiculous that Gibson would charge more for a copy of their own original guitar.

That whole Norlin era is subpar is a fallacy.

 

[Pat Boyack]

Just wondering why that is?

Try looking at it this way.....in 1968 a Standard Les Paul cost $350 or $2,835 in today's money. A 2022 Standard Les Paul is $2,699.99 so they are on par with 1968 prices. Keep in mind that there was no Custom Shop at Gibson back then so you have nothing to compare.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but there is really nothing nefarious going on here.

 

[thin sissy]

Try looking at it this way.....in 1968 a Standard Les Paul cost $350 or $2,835 in today's money. A 2022 Standard Les Paul is $2,699.99 so they are on par with 1968 prices. Keep in mind that there was no Custom Shop at Gibson back then so you have nothing to compare.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but there is really nothing nefarious going on here.

Not that I have a dog in this or anything, but I think what he's saying is:

A reissue of, say, a '74 Custom, cost more than an original '74 does TODAY. Using your burst analogy, that would be like a new R8 costing 350 k today (ie more than a 1958 TODAY)

I might have misinterpereted the OP though

 

[Pat Boyack]

I might have misinterpereted the OP though

Me too. I did however, ask a detailed question and got a response which I copied.

 

[Wizard1183]

Not that I have a dog in this or anything, but I think what he's saying is:

A reissue of, say, a '74 Custom, cost more than an original '74 does TODAY. Using your burst analogy, that would be like a new R8 costing 350 k today (ie more than a 1958 TODAY)

I might have misinterpereted the OP though

Correct. I didn’t think it could’ve gotten misconstrued. Sorry.