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rafalynch

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Hello, I am about to buy this SG online. In the photos I see that the headstock, bridge and knobs are not original. the P90 if it seems and the potentiometers look good too. I need help dating the production date and opinion of the condition of the guitar. The serial number is 271944 Thank you for any helpful comments. Thanks
 

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Hello, I am about to buy this SG online. In the photos I see that the headstock, bridge and knobs are not original. the P90 if it seems and the potentiometers look good too. I need help dating the production date and opinion of the condition of the guitar. The serial number is 271944 Thank you for any helpful comments. Thanks
The headstock? Did you mean the tuners, by any chance?
 

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yes .. tuners are not original. sorry for my bad English

The nut and frets are changed as well.

 

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Looks like it might be a 1965 SG Junior, going by the pot code of 137 6502 (2nd week of 1965) - Serial number could indicate 1965, as well.

This guitar has had the bridge converted from a wraparound bridge to a bridge/ stop tail. As you said, the Grover tuners are not original, nor are the knobs. Looks to be in very nice condition, otherwise... What's with the funny finish on the back of the headstock? Is it flaking off?

1965 was a transitional year, and it may have a slightly thinner width of a neck. 1 11/16" (the standard width) is possible for a '65 and is preferred by many; but not all...

Could be a nice guitar if it plays and sounds good, and the price reflects the modifications...
 
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rafalynch

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1965 was a transitional year, and it may have a slightly thinner width of a neck. 1 11/16" (the standard width) is possible for a '65 and is preferred by many; but not all...


Fernieite.
That is a very important piece of information for me. I have a very large hand and I don't like narrow collars on the nut. I'm going to ask the seller to measure the width of the nut. Thank you so much
 

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It appears to be normal width, 42.5 mm vs. 1,673 inches. It is the normal right? Thank you very much for your help, in an online purchase it is very easy to overlook many details.

 

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I don't know, might be. (You do the math ;))

I just measured my 1963 Junior's width at the edge of the fretboard, (by the nut) because the nut is a hair thinner than the fretboard on my SG.

My measurements are 43.23 mm or 1.702 inches. (Again, it's the fretboard, not the nut width ) I don't know if that helps?

Don't forget, our calipers could be slightly off, or perhaps the nut/ fingerboards of our individual guitars are slightly different.
 

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Fernieite, Thank you very much for your help



We are talking about a millimeter of difference from the one in 1965 to yours in 1962. I have seen the specifications of another Junior 65 on Google and it measures the same 42.5mm. I mean a Gibson that I have acoustic with a 39mm nut ... and a 68 SG Custom from a good friend also with a 39mm nut. this if it makes me narrow for my big toes. But 1mm I don't think it shows too much.

 

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You're welcome. FYI, here's some good reading for you...

 

rafalynch

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Thanks for link. I did not know him and it is very interesting to know these guitars. Thank you very much for your help
 
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