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Not seeing any "new" Murphy Lab info , thought I would share mine .

John550

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Without naming names :
After getting an ultra aged from a retailer . A Murphy Lab ultra light aged with / dark cherry back . I was just looking mind you , but fell for it . Once in hand , I sent it back .
I found a M2M heavy aged elsewhere . I was told when I pulled the trigger it was not a ML . When I got it , It has the Murphy Lab papers .

I emailed :
I wanted to make you aware .

When you said it is" Not a Murphy Lab" but as it turns out , this M2M is a Murphy Lab Heavy aged as far as I can tell .
I like the guitar , but have concerns on loosing the finish . I was hoping to get some clarity on any interventions the Lab has done to stop the problem
with the finishes not adhering to the dye . I know this is more prevalent in the dark cherry backed guitars , not sure about mine . Could you find out what’s going on , Thanks , John

Responce :
Good morning. I'm sorry, I was mistaken. We didn't mention Murphy Lab in our listing so I thought this one was ordered pre-Murphy Lab.

This guitar was built and finished after the issue with the dark red cherry filler was addressed and
remedied.

Fortunately we did not receive any of the guitars that were found to have those issues with the dark cherry filler.
Keep an eye on the guitar and enjoy it. If you see any issues with the finish in the future, just let me know.
Reach out with any questions.



So I wanted the old lacquer /aging . But this is much different than the first guitar (ultra light aged) the texture is way different ,the aging is different looking, it's smoother , no alligator skin. An absolute comfort finish (heavy aged ). I don't feel this will have finish problems as the color is almost brown . I don't know what to do as it is the closest thing to getting the perfect guitar . Do I give it up on principal , or because I will be paying a lot for a quick hit of cold air , or the run has a bad start . or maybe is it more true to the historic spec .
 

mjross

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Man, if you really like it and it plays well, that would be a difficult decision. If it were me I’d roll the dice if I really liked the feel and the way it plays (you mentioned perfect guitar, that does not happen every day). It appears you have a bit of recourse if the finish fails. Hope it all works out!
 

John550

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I'm hoping someone in the know would confirm changes made .

My observation , It appears they did , as the heavy aged finish has" less" aging than the ultralight aging . Not the relicing ,but the finish . It's laying down flat
The first guitar would not been able to withstand forced hi pressure air , and would not be an issue on this one .
 
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Brek

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I say to hell with principles, if its the best you have played, thats it, no question, keep it. I get the issue in hand, its basically been mis-sold. The dealer line is 'we assumed' well, we all know what that means lol. I have three labs, all 2020 models, one '58 light aged (heavy aged IMO which is why i took a punt on it mail order) which has that light brownish hue to the back. Luckily it is the best example of a reissue i have played. When people say 'super resonant' this is what they mean, but doubt they actually have in comparison. I have hi res front and back from when it was unboxed by dealer for reference. In case anything falls off that shouldn't. My '57 is 6 months old now and no finish issues at all.
 

El Gringo

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I say to hell with principles, if its the best you have played, thats it, no question, keep it. I get the issue in hand, its basically been mis-sold. The dealer line is 'we assumed' well, we all know what that means lol. I have three labs, all 2020 models, one '58 light aged (heavy aged IMO which is why i took a punt on it mail order) which has that light brownish hue to the back. Luckily it is the best example of a reissue i have played. When people say 'super resonant' this is what they mean, but doubt they actually have in comparison. I have hi res front and back from when it was unboxed by dealer for reference. In case anything falls off that shouldn't. My '57 is 6 months old now and no finish issues at all.
what color is the back of the instrument
 

John550

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Thanks for the encouraging words , I didn't want to reply until I decided if I was keeping it . I wanted something aged , and I 'm loving this guitar . I'm sure I will not have any problems with the finish as its to similar to a Heavy aged Murphy in the passed . Its a M2M ,Carmelita neck profile .

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TM1

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Wow, the big photo of the front really looks like an old/original one except for the lack of patina on the switch nut and the switch. I've seen& played alot of original LP's and if you aged the switch nut & shaft you could probably fool someone.
Really nice
 

Todd Louis

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A "Murphy Lab" is just a aged Historic.
Its nothing different or special.

If you didn't pay a premium for it

Then just enjoy the guitar.
don't worry about a name.
 
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