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Why is a post 2013 Historic better than earlier years?

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Not trying to kick the Hornet nest but a few guitar experts have told me that
the best years for recent Gibson Les Paul Historic production would be post 2013.
Any thoughts as to why this might be true?
Thanks
RAR
 

RocknRollShakeUp

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Not trying to kick the Hornet nest but a few guitar experts have told me that
the best years for recent Gibson Les Paul Historic production would be post 2013.
Any thoughts as to why this might be true?
Thanks
RAR
I’m outside my lane here, but just to get the ball rolling, I think the 2013’s were the first ones to lose the truss rod condom and get hide glue for the fretboard.
 

Musicman

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They made some changes that got them closer to how they use to make them. Whether that's better or not is up to the person buying them but they are getting closer.
 

Dilver

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Different specs and materials… everything from the truss rod, neck tenon, glue, binding scrape, body carve, dye, plastics, Custombuckers, etc. seems like most of the big changes happened 2013 onwards. BUT… most of the Historics prior to that had better looking rosewood fretboards. Gibson rosewood is looking mighty weird these days and has been for the past few years. Practically everyone who gets a new Les Paul says “the fretboard looked really dry, but after I oiled it…”. You never heard that years ago. Ever. It’s not that the rosewood they’re using now is dry, it’s just weird looking rosewood.
 

somebodyelseuk

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Three things.
The internet's full of "experts".
Next year's model is always better than last year's, according to Gibson Marketing.
The 'best one' is the one you own.
 

rockabilly69

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Three things.
The internet's full of "experts".
Next year's model is always better than last year's, according to Gibson Marketing.
The 'best one' is the one you own.
I disagree, I think there was some positive changes post 2013, resulting in a higher percentage of good Historics.

I had been looking for a good Historic for quite a while, and when 2013 hit, I found a ton of good ones. I think the big change for me was the custom-buckers as I like low output pickups. They just seemed to work for me. Another thing, while they were changing out the specs like the no truss rod condom, hide glue in the joints, etc, I think Gibson started to change the shape of the neck shoulders a bit, making the necks a little easier to navigate. I wound up with two post 2013 Historic keepers, a 2014 R7 and a 2019 R4, and neither of these guitars have ugly fingerboards, both of them have some good looking dark pieces of rosewood!


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