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Celestion Cone Codes/Pulsonic RIC???

ptrickamp222

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Is the RIC cone code original or a recone????? What does it match in tone 102 003, 102 014, 1777, 444?????? Any info would be appreciated. I've read that some people have pulled original speakers out with the red paint still intact with the RIC cone. Suppose to stand for Rola/Celestion......:fc
 

roadrunner

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Get a hold of Jim at Scumback speakers, he knows more about this stuff than most anyone around.
You can try the Plexi Palace/Metro forums as well.
 

humbucking

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Yes, its Rola/Celestion. They were sometimes used in the early 1960's, as I have two pairs of Alnico Blues from some of my voxes, that have the original carboard gasket, with date codes still in place. They were also sometimes used between 1973-74.
 

markguitar

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Is the RIC cone code original or a recone????? What does it match in tone 102 003, 102 014, 1777, 444?????? Any info would be appreciated. I've read that some people have pulled original speakers out with the red paint still intact with the RIC cone. Suppose to stand for Rola/Celestion......:fc

I've had early '70's cabs with original RIC cone speakers. What red paint are you talking about? Like the red dye they used on the solder joints in amps? Marshall never used that on the speaker solder joints. I've never seen that once and I've probably had over 100 Marshall cabs.
 

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Humbucking is right. The RIC cone code was most frequently used around 1974 IIRC. But there are also Celestions from the late 50s and 60s with original cones with the RIC code, including the silver alnicos in my AC30 that date to December 8, 1966 (when the Beatles recorded Strawberry Fields BTW). I was the first to break the red sealer paint on the speaker screws.

I later found another '67 AC30 on Ebay with speakers of that very same day, also with the RIC stamps.

About the tone match: I really don't know. The first 102 003 cone I saw on a silver alnico Celestion was February 22, 1967 but they may have been introduced earler. I guess the RICs were used very briefly after the 444 was phased out.
 

ptrickamp222

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I contacted Scumback and he said they were original Rola Celestion cones from 74' to early 75. I read somewhere where someone pulled the speakers out of a vox I think that the screws had the red dye. Not the solder joints. So as to refer to original not a recone.......Still wonder what they were a copy of tho.....
 

ptrickamp222

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Humbucking is right. The RIC cone code was most frequently used around 1974 IIRC. But there are also Celestions from the late 50s and 60s with original cones with the RIC code, including the silver alnicos in my AC30 that date to December 8, 1966 (when the Beatles recorded Strawberry Fields BTW). I was the first to break the red sealer paint on the speaker screws.

I later found another '67 AC30 on Ebay with speakers of that very same day, also with the RIC stamps.

About the tone match: I really don't know. The first 102 003 cone I saw on a silver alnico Celestion was February 22, 1967 but they may have been introduced earler. I guess the RICs were used very briefly after the 444 was phased out.

Thanks for the post. The original person with the original RIC's with the red dye.....How Cool is That!!!!!:salude
 

keef

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Thanks for the post. The original person with the original RIC's with the red dye.....How Cool is That!!!!!:salude

It's a small web, er world! I think Vox only started adding the red paint at some point in time - I can't recall the earlier sixties Voxes having this.

I know that Jim Elyea - author of the definitive Vox book - was aware of the RIC sightings of various owners, but I don't know if the book mentions these. But it's pretty certain that they have been used since a long time.
 
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