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Cost Of A Les Paul Historic R0 Neck Replacement?

axeman565758

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With a bit of time and luck you can find a nice used R0 for that kind of money.
I'd look for a beat to hell Jr or Special, take the neck from that one and do a switch-er-oo.
I still have an issue though, with Gibson not covering something like that...I mean that's insane. New owner or not. At least make them aware.
 

PRS

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I am going to have him carve me a bigger neck. It'll probably be on par with a R9 neck. I am thinking something around .9" at the first fret and 1.0" at the 12th. Give or take a bit.
 

El Gringo

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I'd look for a beat to hell Jr or Special, take the neck from that one and do a switch-er-oo.
I still have an issue though, with Gibson not covering something like that...I mean that's insane. New owner or not. At least make them aware.
You know how it is with how the warranty process works in regards to the original owner .
 

charliechitlins

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So far, it seems like no cracking is apparent from the outside.
It would seem to me that the area could be machined out, a plug put in, and it all could be kept under the TRC.
I'd have to see it.
 

axeman565758

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You know how it is with how the warranty process works in regards to the original owner .
Yeah I know.....but its worth a shot. I'm still scratching my head over this, though. Multiple necks on a CNC machines, making precise depth cuts and one is too deep...???
With all 3 of my M2M necks, they actually had to program or re-program the machine to cut the TR channel deeper, to accommodate the 1' depth. Now my neck depth is on file. And that's my point..... all the other necks for all the R models R4,6,7,8,9,0, Jr Special, BB's etc all use the same neck depth cut.
 

El Gringo

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Yeah I know.....but its worth a shot. I'm still scratching my head over this, though. Multiple necks on a CNC machines, making precise depth cuts and one is too deep...???
With all 3 of my M2M necks, they actually had to program or re-program the machine to cut the TR channel deeper, to accommodate the 1' depth. Now my neck depth is on file. And that's my point..... all the other necks for all the R models R4,6,7,8,9,0, Jr Special, BB's etc all use the same neck depth cut.
This is very weird to me . A total headscratcher as to how the truss rod has gotten to this state of disrepair. I would have a hard time letting anyone else besides Gibson mess with this instrument. A lot of money/value will be trashed once this neck starts to get messed with other than Gibson.
 

Any Name You Wish

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It is out-of-warranty. I wouldn't send it to Gibson due to the high cost and lack of interaction you'll get from a large company. A good luthier, preferably close, can have the fretboard off and then reveal everything. Then you can go from there. A Gibson repair is not necessarily the best.
 

DutchRay

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It is out-of-warranty. I wouldn't send it to Gibson due to the high cost and lack of interaction you'll get from a large company. A good luthier, preferably close, can have the fretboard off and then reveal everything. Then you can go from there. A Gibson repair is not necessarily the best.
Well that depends. If it is a factory defect, lifetime warranty is transferable in the EU but the guitar needs to be diagnosed by an authorised Gibson tech. I've been down that road with a customers Mike Bloomfield Les Paul. The trussrod stopped working and Gibson did repair it free of charge. Unfortunately the neck snapped on transport from Gibson to our shop and Gibson built a new guitar with the old serial. So there is a Bloomfield out there that was built years after run was finished.
 

J.D.

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I'd definitely attempt to repair this before re-necking it. Modern glues make joints typically much stronger than the parent wood.
 

Toecutter

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Sounds like the wood is compressed from tightening the truss rod. The neck can surely be fixed by removing the fingerboard and routing out the compressed wood and then replacing it. Replacing a non-headstock break neck should be the absolute last resort. I would look into someone like Dan Erlewine to do the repair. I believe Dan still has an account on this site, maybe try messaging him.
 

PRS

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At this point, the thought of having a bigger neck cut for me is more appealing than trying to repair it first. I am not a stickler for originality and since I am getting older, bigger necks are more comfortable for my aging hands.
 

axeman565758

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At this point, the thought of having a bigger neck cut for me is more appealing than trying to repair it first. I am not a stickler for originality and since I am getting older, bigger necks are more comfortable for my aging hands.
Hmmmmm sounds like you want a bigger neck regardless......
I for one, can attest to the love for a big neck. Here's my '20 60th Anniv R0 M2M. 1st fret depth is 1.017" and the shoulders are HUGE.
Once you go big, you'll never go back!!!! IMG_2408 (1).jpg IMG_2437.JPG IMG_1055.JPG
 
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