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Ebay Scammer Alert! Don’t Ship to 1140 River Road, New Castle Delaware!

Roger65

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Okay so it is not exactly breaking news that ebay is full of scammers. But if anyone makes a purchase from you and their shipping address is

1140 River Rd, Apt 7072632
New Castle, Delaware 19720-5106

It is a scam. That is a warehouse in Delaware that houses a Chinese Logistics center. How the scam works is they pay you, the funds clear, you ship, then when they receive the item they immediately open a return request for damaged goods. They send you back an empty box and ebay issues them the refund. You can read more about it in the link below, but they use multiple names but always that address. Sometimes a different apt number. I always google the address before I ship anything and I dodged a bullet. This is the third scammer trying to buy this guitar, I think the guitar wants to stay home!


 

rialcnis

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Ebay should do something about this, or stand to lose themselves.
 

JohnDOE70121

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Hello, I can confirm this is a SCAMMER that uses matching billing and shipping addresses. They attemped to purchase from us, and we will not ship to them. They did not even use a real last name. The name of their company is
HONOUR SINO (HK) Limited
1140 River Road
New Castle, DE 19720
 

Deco

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THIS IS NOT A SCAM for guitar transactions. Large guitar stores like Wildwood guitar, Eddies guitar know this address. 1140 River Road is an operation Center of SF express, biggest shipping company in China. I use this address to buy expensive guitar over 8000 USD.

Why I use this?

1 I live in China, lots of sellers in the US are not comfortable to do international shipping.

2 Delaware does not have purchase tax.

3 SF have stuffs there and can help doing international shipping to China, and the import tax won’t be that high.( think about it if you buy a 10000 usd guitar abroad, how much import tax you would pay? 2500 usd? Crazy?)
 

JASIII

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The company I work for does a lot of shipping of high value collectibles. We ship to that address frequently with no issues. The address itself and the company there are not the issue. Individual scammers in China can and do use that shipping company, so the issue is individual buyers who are problematic just like anywhere.
 

Deco

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Hello, I can confirm this is a SCAMMER that uses matching billing and shipping addresses. They attemped to purchase from us, and we will not ship to them. They did not even use a real last name. The name of their company is
HONOUR SINO (HK) Limited
1140 River Road
New Castle, DE 19720
The company I work for does a lot of shipping of high value collectibles. We ship to that address frequently with no issues. The address itself and the company there are not the issue. Individual scammers in China can and do use that shipping company, so the issue is individual buyers who are problematic just like anywhere.
Exactly, I bought lots of high value guitars and they sent to 1140 river road. Yesterday I bought a 280 bucks pedal, the owner searched this address in google and refund me. He is damn smart lol!
 

garywright

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THIS IS NOT A SCAM for guitar transactions. Large guitar stores like Wildwood guitar, Eddies guitar know this address. 1140 River Road is an operation Center of SF express, biggest shipping company in China. I use this address to buy expensive guitar over 8000 USD.

Why I use this?

1 I live in China, lots of sellers in the US are not comfortable to do international shipping.

2 Delaware does not have purchase tax.

3 SF have stuffs there and can help doing international shipping to China, and the import tax won’t be that high.( think about it if you buy a 10000 usd guitar abroad, how much import tax you would pay? 2500 usd? Crazy?)
are you saying wildwood and eddies won’t ship internationally directly to you but instead ship to a middleman located in Delaware ?
 

Deco

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are you saying wildwood and eddies won’t ship internationally directly to you but instead ship to a middleman located in Delaware ?
No, I requested them to ship to DE. If they ship internationally directly, the import tax will blow me out of water, unless they agree to write the gear value relatively low. They do ship to DE without any issue.
 

garywright

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I wouldn’t feel comfortable enough doing that even if the $s saved were large…I’m surprised these sellers take the risk of having a third party involved and would only ship directly to the buyer..I take it you must sign off on any liability if it somehow “disappears” in Delaware
 
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