• Guys, we've spent considerable money converting the Les Paul Forum to this new XenForo platform, and we have ongoing monthly operating expenses. THE "DONATIONS" TAB IS NOW WORKING, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY DONATIONS YOU CAN MAKE TO KEEP THE LES PAUL FORUM GOING! Thank you!

Epiphone VS Gibson

redsounds

Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2022
Messages
31
Was looking at getting a new guitar this year but honestly, am so torn between getting one of the Epiphone models or a Gibson Les Paul. So, we know that Epiphone are generally cheaper than Gibson, but I want to hear other experience about the quality and playability of these two brands.
 

charliechitlins

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 16, 2021
Messages
977
I've had some Epiphones that were better than some Gibsons.
Play them and see what you think.
Without a hint of sarcasm...if you think an Epiphone you play is as good as a Gibson, buy it and save a lot of money.
Buy the one that makes you want to play.
The one that, if you don't get it out of your sight, you won't get anything done.
The one that says, "Run your fingers over my neck you great big guitar playing hunk of man."
 

Sgrady41

Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2022
Messages
60
I have an acoustic “inspired by gibson” EPI and it is really sweet. I have a gibson as well and it is amazing close. I don’t have a LP Epi but I also have a casino, pick ups were a little flat and swapped them out and the pots, caps etc. the quality and finish on it though is amazing and I like it better than the USA I played. Go play one, they are way better than 10 years ago.
 

Triplet

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 13, 2006
Messages
1,674
Much more of this type of discussion on that OTHER Les Paul forum...
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2021
Messages
25
I think in life, you get what you pay for...

If you can find an Epiphone with a good neck and decent frets, you can always upgrade the hardware, pickups and electronics.
It can be a cool looking affordable alternative to a Gibson LP, but there are a few functional trade-offs. Epiphones are Poly finished (not Nitro) and their maple caps are paper thin. They also use lower grade fingerboard woods, and body woods, and they use more affordable metric hardware. The electronics & pickups can be pretty sketchy compared to a real Gibson. But, if you can find a good one that plays well and sounds good, they look really nice.

I special ordered an Epiphone Les Paul Modern from Sam Ashe during the Pandemic (2021), and after waiting 8 long months it arrived unplayable, and un-plekable. Their tech spent 4 hours working on it, gave up and called me. The neck was twisted, and the frets were a mess, but it was beautiful to look at. I refused to accept it, and they put it in their back room (with 5 others from the same shipment) which all had neck issues (and which were being returned to Epiphone). The next day, I spent an additional $1000 with Sweetwater and selected (from a selection of 6 they had in stock) a Gibson Studio Les Paul Plus which was (and is) flawless, Factory Plekked, plays like butter, and is an amazing sounding guitar.

2021 Gibson HP4 Studio Les Paul Plus (2).jpg
 
Last edited:

Sgrady41

Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2022
Messages
60
I think in life, you get what you pay for...

If you can find an Epiphone with a good neck and decent frets, you can always upgrade the hardware, pickups and electronics.
It can be a decent affordable alternative to a Gibson LP, but there are a few trade-offs. Epiphones are Poly finished (not Nitro) and
their maple caps are paper thin. They also use lower grade fingerboard woods, and body woods, and they use affordable metric hardware. The electronics & pickups can be pretty sketchy especially compared to a real Gibson. But, if you can find a good one that plays well, they look really nice, and can always be upgraded.

I special ordered an Epiphone Les Paul Modern from Sam Ashe during the Pandemic (2021), and after waiting 8 long months it arrived unplayable, and un-plekable. Their tech spent 4 hours working on it, gave up and called me. The neck was twisted, and the frets were a mess, but it was beautiful to look at. I refused to accept it, and they put it in their back room (with 5 others from the same shipment) which all had neck issues (and which were being returned to Epiphone). The next day, I spent an additional $1000 with Sweetwater and selected (from a selection of 6 they had in stock) a Gibson Studio Les Paul Plus which was (and is) flawless, Factory Plekked, plays like butter, and is an amazing sounding guitar.

View attachment 22048
I think it also depends on which model you choose from Epiphone. I agree some are not in the same league.
 

lure555

Swirling Vortex of Sound, Classic Club
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
3,411
It sound like Epi has made some big strides with the Bonamassa guitars and the 1959, but I'll never get over when I worked at Manny's Music in Hollywood and the tuning peg simply fell off as I was attempting to tune an Epi 56 GT reissue. 😂
 

WillyW

Active member
Joined
Apr 17, 2021
Messages
125
I wasn't a fan of the nasty epimophone hydrocephally headstock on any guitar but it was even worse on an SG or a lesser paul.

now that they have changed the headstock, they look much better.
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2021
Messages
25
I wasn't a fan of the nasty epimophone hydrocephally headstock on any guitar but it was even worse on an SG or a lesser paul.

now that they have changed the headstock, they look much better.

Tonewood matters peepholes!

BTW: In reference to "tonewood matters peepholes..."

When I worked with Leo Fender at G&L 1979-81, I specifically asked him how
important "tonewoods" were to sound (we had 3 working F-100 prototypes
Mahogony, Ash, and Alder). Honestly, he didn't think it made much difference.
He was much more interested in wood price, wood quality and availability.

Of course, there are legions of folk who will argue about this for the next
100 years, but I'm not one of them. Please, feel free to decide for yourself.

BTW: Forrest White felt the same way, and he was VP & the plant manager
from 1955-1965 at Pre-CBS Fender (and my best friend in the 1980's).

Me&Leo.jpgForrest BC.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 1979-Forrest-White-Fairground.jpg
    1979-Forrest-White-Fairground.jpg
    681.2 KB · Views: 4
Last edited:

renderit

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 19, 2009
Messages
10,941
If we all had keys made with equality our houses wood remain unopened...
 
Top