ERIC CLAPTON | CREAM STAGE-PLAYED 1964 "FOOL" GIBSON SG

[MarcB]

https://www.julienslive.com/lot-det...cbve9EL1lSn84Hgc14A_yas2YnKPLtEdNFm9aQNFio4FU

 

[Any Name You Wish]

Thanks for posting. I didn't know how much work had to be done on it to save it. Not much original left between what Eric and others did and what time did to it. Can't step in the same river twice.

 

[MarcB]

It’s incredible that it’s survived tbh but I’m glad it’s still out there and functional… hopefully it’ll go into the Irsay Collection.. so folks can still see it..

 

[seafood]

really great ......thanks !!!!!!!!

 

[Xpensive Wino]

It's been "well-maintained".

Trigger's awarded a medal for saving the council money by using the same broom for over 20 years... or is it?

 

[S. Weiger]

I estimate that the reserve will not be met.. like with the hunter "burst" (NO bids) ... but I've been wrong before and got away with it
In the event that it should be sold overseas: I hope they have CITES certificate?

 

[MarcB]

It’s a pretty iconic guitar.. but will someone pay £1m .. it’ll be interesting if it does sell for that amount..

 

[S. Weiger]

It’s a pretty iconic guitar.. but will someone pay £1m .. it’ll be interesting if it does sell for that amount..

If only it was in ca. the same condition as when EC used it, it could easily fetch 1M I think.
But alas, it has really been messed with by some idiots.

 

[Bruce R]

.... If only it was in ca. the same condition as when EC used it, it could easily fetch 1M I think.....

I have been harping about the same thing for years! Personally, I think it could be easily reverted to Cream-era condition by any number of the amazing guitar resto experts out there. Remove the stop tailpiece and Schaller bridge, touch up the paint as necessary, install early 60's ABR-1, install Vibrola (minus the cover plate), swap the knobs, paint the neck plate yellow, and (IMHO) replace the Grovers with dual-ring Klusons. Anything else?

I think this guitar will fetch a lot of money. I'd like to see someone like a Jim Irsay get it, someone that will display and give access to it. It's too old to be played seriously but I'd sure like to hear it demonstrated.

 

[Any Name You Wish]

Wife says "It's just a stupid old guitar, and what happened to his hair? Is that a perm"

 

[bern1]

Messed with or not, It’s still THE guitar EC used on Disraeli Gears and probably other iconic recordings. I agree with Bruce, it could easily be brought back to Cream era specs.

However, I recall reading a long time ago that the crappy paint used originally by the Fool group and the continuous use of the guitar by EC had rendered the wood in the neck very, how shall we say, fragile or almost unusable. Surely, this guitar will never really be “gigged” going forward. It will be a museum piece.

Wouldn’t it be fun if someday somebody talked EC into performing Outside Woman Blues with it though……

 

[S. Weiger]

Bruce R & Bern1 I'm not talking about bringing the SG to Cream specs. That wouldn't change the fact that it's been tampered with heavily by some REAL fools
What I meant was, if only nobody had messed it up in the first place, then £1M -or more -would be easily fetched I think.
But to try & make it "back to specs" would be in the same category as having Gruhn's top luthiers to conceil Greeny's headstock break as if it never happened.

 

[Bruce R]

But to try & make it "back to specs" would be in the same category as having Gruhn's top luthiers to conceil Greeny's headstock break as if it never happened

Respectfully, I don't see any correlation. The SG, like Greenie, HAS already had it's headstock and neck repaired, and neck back paint was brought back to original condition, so why not change knobs & bridge? Minor appointments - replacement not repairs.

When Gibson replicated Greenie they did not include a faux neck repair - they made it appear as it did when Peter played it. I am only talking about Cream "appearance" specifications. Just my opinion.

 

[S. Weiger]

Respectfully, I don't see any correlation. The SG, like Greenie, HAS already had it's headstock and neck repaired, and neck back paint was brought back to original condition, so why not change knobs & bridge? Minor appointments - replacement not repairs.

When Gibson replicated Greenie they did not include a faux neck repair - they made it appear as it did when Peter played it. I am only talking about Cream "appearance" specifications. Just my opinion.

My example with Greeny was just to show, that to change something just to make a famous guitar look like it once did, would be to try to rewrite history. My original point was that IF Clapton's SG had been in the same condition as when he had it, I think it would fetch far more than it will now. But we'll see when auction is over.

 

[Restive]

A friend handled her in the 1960’s when she was in a shop for repair. He says the finish was very rough then, since she was hand painted, not airbrushed. The guitar was by no means smooth.

I’ll be a contrarian. Its utility as a guitar has little bearing on its value, I think. Culturally, this is iconic psychedelia. I would be very surprised if she doesn’t make $2 mil. There is only one.

 

[William Payne]

It would depend on the collector. I was watching a video of work being done to Willie Nelson's Trigger the other day and people in the comments were saying it is garbage that should be chucked in the bin. One persons treasure is another's junk. It always makes me nervous at the thought of things being lost because of some ones perceived lack of value.

The issue with altered prominent instruments is is that no matter how much has been changed you can't replace it. There won't be another one.

 

[AA00475Bassman]

The guitar has history - I believe someone will lay out big money .

 

[rialcnis]

It was quite a guitar.

 

[S. Weiger]

It was quite a guitar.

Keyword here is was.

 

[MarcB]

Like any marriage or partnership, (dare I say ownership) it comes with the caveat of “to have honour and hold.. in sickness and in health”

Which translates as .. if you’re broken and repaired, I’ll still honour you..

Bonjour.