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Murphy lab… plastic?

Hifi

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I’ve noticed that Gibsons aged guitars don’t seem to get aged plastics even on heavy aged models.. What on earth is the thought process here?
I have a 2016 r8 and the metal parts have a nice patina, the plastic stuff is all brand new. This looks super cheap to me and although I’m getting good at aging stuff myself, it makes me wonder what they are thinking. If you have any insight please share
 

Pip

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Yup drives me mad, some Fender CS jobs are better but again often wide of the mark.
 

AA00475Bassman

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Ive been shopping Murphys online two years Murphys & lab my kriptoninte is as follows.

Truss rod cover white edge to white .

Pickup rings way way to new looking .

poker chip just does not have any vibe .

All the exposed metal on pickup selector switch way to new looking .

Various metal fasteners & screws to new looking .

Shafts on tuners to bright .

Tune-o-matic & thumb wheels to much shine .

And now street price on SOME Murphy Labs are north of $10,000.00 I believe IMO Im paying for a half done job .

My 2016 Historic Aged Firebird 111 is fabulous in its aging .

I also know going forward with this purchase I most likely will be aging all I mention above !
 
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Hifi

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Totally agree with your above comments! On the fender note.. I have a heavy relic strat that came with all parts meticulously aged evenly, great work from them. There’s only one problem..
All the rusted parts are not functional! The screws that hold the neck into the body.. Rusted and snapped. The bridge saddle screws? All rusted into place!
Can’t win them all though, at least it looks good lol
 

El Gringo

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I think it's easy enough of a process for Gibson Custom to age metal , where plastic I bet is more complex ( this is only a guess ) . Now if they were able to come up with a technique to age plastic I bet there would be an increased price for that . Just a guess .
 

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Totally agree with your above comments! On the fender note.. I have a heavy relic strat that came with all parts meticulously aged evenly, great work from them. There’s only one problem..
All the rusted parts are not functional! The screws that hold the neck into the body.. Rusted and snapped. The bridge saddle screws? All rusted into place!
Can’t win them all though, at least it looks good lol
Muriatic acid, the gift that keeps on giving.
 

corpse

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Not on plastic- on metal you mean.
Have a look at the sticky above on aging parts. My second vice is building plastic models- tanks in particular. We call the process of aging "weathering"- Gold medals at shows generally go to the model with the best weathering. The biggest thing with the new plastic parts is the patina. The stock Gibson color is quite good (but photography is tricky at best, and the real ones vary like night and day in terms of color) but they shine far too much for a well-played guitar, so taking them off the guitar and hitting them with 600 grit, and then 1200 grit, paying particular attention to the screw holes, will achieve most of the desired effect. I have gone as far as leaving pick up rings in the sun (very slow- with very marginal results) and applying highly thinned 'washes' of dark brown oil paint- letting it sit for a few minutes- then wiping it off with the cotton cloth. Brown shoe polish looks good but will not withstand handling and you are back to zero. But you have to do the original parts (I would say) as Gibson doesn't sell the CS plastics and the older Historic rings that are available are too Ivory and the PG is wrong. And if you go with Throbak you will already have aged parts...
FWIW my '18 R9 gets played a good bit- incl gigs, and still is pretty shiny. I gave up aging bits- too much work aging the plastic for me, and my sweat must be highly caustic as my metal parts look played-in. Play more- sound better.
 

DANELECTRO

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I'd rather age the plastic myself than let Gibson do it. I had a 2005 Murphy R9 which had beautiful aging done to the husk, but the plastic looked like it was aged by a 4 year old with a sheet of sandpaper:

GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy047800.jpg


I polished the cover plate so that it looked a little more respectable:
GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy197a.jpg


From what I understand, Gibson would send the husk to Tom, he would do his aging magic, then the husk was returned to Gibson, so Tom never touched the plastic parts. Like I said, the aging on the body was excellent:
GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy7751024.jpg
 

fernieite

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I'd rather age the plastic myself than let Gibson do it. I had a 2005 Murphy R9 which had beautiful aging done to the husk, but the plastic looked like it was aged by a 4 year old with a sheet of sandpaper:

GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy047800.jpg


I polished the cover plate so that it looked a little more respectable:
GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy197a.jpg


From what I understand, Gibson would send the husk to Tom, he would do his aging magic, then the husk was returned to Gibson, so Tom never touched the plastic parts. Like I said, the aging on the body was excellent:
GibsonLesPaul0559Murphy7751024.jpg
Man, that back plate looks way better! What did you use to polish it Dan?
 
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