my Ex now in the arms of Jimmy Page - sweet J-200

[wulfthar]

Just to be clear, there are no acoustic twelve string guitars on the second album. The only twelve string on the album is the Vox Phantom Electric XII used on “Living Loving Maid (She’s Just A Woman)” and “Thank You”, so there was definitely no Eko Ranger XII on the album.

Also, the picture you posted with Page and an Eko acoustic twelve string is from a performance of “Tangerine” from the Australian tour in late February of 1972. This was shortly after the fourth album was released, which had no acoustic twelve string either.

Sorry but the sound of "Thank you" is clearly acoustic. I know that because I play that sound pretty well....the rest of your post is pure speculation: the guitar in Ramble on is definitely a dreadnought, anybody who plays "Babe I´m goona leave you" on a dread immediately notice the sound is very different from the record, because Jimmy used a maple Super Jumbo (The J-200).

Also, your statement that in Led Zep IV is false too, as Jimmy Page clearly wrote about Stairway to heaven:

“I had an idea for a piece that was going to involve acoustic 12-strings, a layering of guitars and a 6-string solo,” says Jimmy Page.

https://www.loudersound.com/features/jimmy-page-and-stairway-to-heaven-anatomy-of-a-guitar-classic

In the final version there are 12 strings acoustic and electric tracks, like 6 strings acoustics and electrics.

Finally there is an acoustic 12 strings in "battle of evermore".

Out of curiosity, where do you find all these beliefs that you state as matters of fact?

 

[garbeaj]

Sorry but the sound of "Thank you" is clearly acoustic. I know that because I play that sound pretty well....the rest of your post is pure speculation

Are you seriously saying that you KNOW and can prove that the sound of “Thank You” is clearly acoustic based solely on your contention that you “play that sound pretty well”?! That is one of the most glaring statements of pure speculation that I’ve ever heard, barring everything said by Donald Trump.

Also, your statement that in Led Zep IV is false too, as Jimmy Page clearly wrote about Stairway to heaven:



https://www.loudersound.com/features/jimmy-page-and-stairway-to-heaven-anatomy-of-a-guitar-classic

First this article has no reference for this supposed statement from Page, but if we take the quote literally, he is speaking about how he originally conceived “Stairway To Heaven”, NOT how he recorded it.

In the final version there are 12 strings acoustic and electric tracks, like 6 strings acoustics and electrics.

Finally there is an acoustic 12 strings in "battle of evermore".

None of this is factually true and you have not presented any evidence to back up this claim that is based solely on your opinion, at least insofar as you have presented these claims here. In point of fact, there are no 12-string acoustic guitars on the fourth album recording of “The Battle of Evermore”. That track simply has 6-string acoustic guitar and mandolin.

Out of curiosity, where do you find all these beliefs that you state as matters of fact?

If I have stated anything as a matter of fact, it is based on and supported by decades of research and study of interviews (most often with Page himself), studying, transcribing and learning to play the material from recordings both official and unofficial on live and studio albums. Anything else that is based solely on my opinion I have identified as such.

By the way...https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/...y-Page%92s-Vox-Phantom-XII-on-%93Thank-You%94

 

[Coda]

Bump

JP J200 excitement today

Does anyone know what happened to Mickie Most's J200, the one that Jimmy borrowed. Is it still around or disappeared ?

 

[jb_abides]

This thread... Ten Years Gone.

Enjoy.

 

[garbeaj]

Bump

JP J200 excitement today

Does anyone know what happened to Mickie Most's J200 the Jimmy borrowed. Is it still around or disappeared ?

It was stolen from Mickie Most many years ago. Margouleff might have tracked it down by this time, but I doubt it. My best guess is that it might be in the hands of someone who has no idea of the history of the guitar.

 

[ScumbackSpeakers]

I love that mustache tailpiece with the adjustable bridge!

 

[garbeaj]

I love that mustache tailpiece with the adjustable bridge!

And the nylon saddles on the tune-o-matic make a difference as well. Funny how these guitars were almost universally hated by nearly every acoustic guitar aficionado over these many decades and nearly all agreed that it was a major mistake by Gibson to have a TOM on them…yet they were used on many of the greatest acoustic rock tracks of all time!

 

[Patrick Ginnaty]

Zombie thread, or not, it's a cool story!

 

[Coda]

It was stolen from Mickie Most many years ago. Margouleff might have tracked it down by this time, but I doubt it. My best guess is that it might be in the hands of someone who has no idea of the history of the guitar.

garbaej - thanks for the reply. I watched the 'acoustic letter' YT review of the guitar. It does sound amazing on the YT audio. Maybe the original will re-surface given all the press coverage. I wonder if they know the serial number of the Mickie Most original. Stay tuned.

 

[Booaloo]

Did it have that large transverse brace inside with the top dampener thing?

Mine does, but I have a regular bridge, mine is a 63