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My New Murphy Lab Heavy Aged and Murphy Questions

Ed A

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Here are pictures of my newly purchased 2024 heavy aged Golden Poppy burst but more about that in a bit… A little background. I don’t get here often these days but I’ve been a member since we were a very small group going back to 1999. And 1999 happens to be the last time I bought a Tom Murphy aged Les Paul. Actually, I bought three that year. They are all gone now. The late '90s was a fun time, spending countless hours on the phone with Tom, him refinishing quite a few Les Pauls for me and visiting his home and shop in Illinois… For whatever reason 25 years later, I’m now getting obsessed with Murphys again albeit even if they’re not done by him but by the Murphy lab. I’ve been out of the reissue game for many many years so I’ve been recently catching up. I’m aware of the negative criticism of the current Murphy Lab guitars but I myself am quite impressed with this one that I bought about six weeks ago. While I and many others always felt Tom’s razor blade technique was a work of art, let’s face it, there’s nothing more real looking than real checking. I feel that the aging that the Murphy Lab is doing is convincing and I appreciate the time and effort they put into these guitars… I love this guitar! I’m very picky about flame, gotta have some wave to it and look vintage. I literally probably looked at 100 photos of available ones through the weeks until I found this one. But of course I’m already looking to see if I can top it. Actually the only reason why is I’m just not a honey burst guy. Every time I get a honey burst I end up selling. So I’m looking for a deeper burst with great flame, once again the search is on!!!

Which brings me to the discussion and some questions. From what I’ve learned with my recent searching is that somewhere around 2020 Tom showed Gibson his new lacquer formula which was thinner and harder and checked on its own. I believe the last Murphys to get the razor checking were in 2019 or thereabouts. And some time in 2020 Gibson re-hired him and the Murphy lab was created. And as we know except for specialty items, he no longer does the aging himself but his team does it. But I recently came across a Murphy aged model from 2020 that caught my eye. With that one its interesting in that Tom aged it and it comes with a certificate saying so, but it also has the real checking. So he did all of the heavy aging, but the checking was done naturally. I think its a pretty cool thing that some of the last guitars he aged in 2020 were some of the first guitars with real lacquer checking. My question is do you guys think that these 2020 Murphy aged guitars may be worth a bit more than the previous razor Murphys? And also do you have any idea if those late 2020 guitars were done before he was hired back by Gibson or after? The certificate book does not say Murphy Lab on it. It just says Murphy Aged. Curious if any of you gurus know more about this transition with Tom Murphy. Thanks!

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60thR0

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I wasn’t around then but from looking around the forums it seems around end of July 2020 is when Murphy Lab guitars first started to appear or at least announced as available. I presume a lot of testing went on before that so I guess the whole project was kicked off some time in 2019 and first half of 2020 was setting up and testing. So surely entirely possible throughout that whole time that Tom was still doing his own aging.

Based on Tom’s comments in interviews I’m not so sure he would take a razor blade to the Murphy Lab lacquer. But maybe in those early days…
 

JPP-1

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Here are pictures of my newly purchased 2024 heavy aged Golden Poppy burst but more about that in a bit… A little background. I don’t get here often these days but I’ve been a member since we were a very small group going back to 1999. And 1999 happens to be the last time I bought a Tom Murphy aged Les Paul. Actually, I bought three that year. They are all gone now. The late '90s was a fun time, spending countless hours on the phone with Tom, him refinishing quite a few Les Pauls for me and visiting his home and shop in Illinois… For whatever reason 25 years later, I’m now getting obsessed with Murphys again albeit even if they’re not done by him but by the Murphy lab. I’ve been out of the reissue game for many many years so I’ve been recently catching up. I’m aware of the negative criticism of the current Murphy Lab guitars but I myself am quite impressed with this one that I bought about six weeks ago. While I and many others always felt Tom’s razor blade technique was a work of art, let’s face it, there’s nothing more real looking than real checking. I feel that the aging that the Murphy Lab is doing is convincing and I appreciate the time and effort they put into these guitars… I love this guitar! I’m very picky about flame, gotta have some wave to it and look vintage. I literally probably looked at 100 photos of available ones through the weeks until I found this one. But of course I’m already looking to see if I can top it. Actually the only reason why is I’m just not a honey burst guy. Every time I get a honey burst I end up selling. So I’m looking for a deeper burst with great flame, once again the search is on!!!

Which brings me to the discussion and some questions. From what I’ve learned with my recent searching is that somewhere around 2020 Tom showed Gibson his new lacquer formula which was thinner and harder and checked on its own. I believe the last Murphys to get the razor checking were in 2019 or thereabouts. And some time in 2020 Gibson re-hired him and the Murphy lab was created. And as we know except for specialty items, he no longer does the aging himself but his team does it. But I recently came across a Murphy aged model from 2020 that caught my eye. With that one its interesting in that Tom aged it and it comes with a certificate saying so, but it also has the real checking. So he did all of the heavy aging, but the checking was done naturally. I think its a pretty cool thing that some of the last guitars he aged in 2020 were some of the first guitars with real lacquer checking. My question is do you guys think that these 2020 Murphy aged guitars may be worth a bit more than the previous razor Murphys? And also do you have any idea if those late 2020 guitars were done before he was hired back by Gibson or after? The certificate book does not say Murphy Lab on it. It just says Murphy Aged. Curious if any of you gurus know more about this transition with Tom Murphy. Thanks!

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Sweet one Ed! What’s the verdict? Burst good? How does it compare to you illustrious gold top? I have a ML light aged, phenomenal guitar. I have a a few in my collection that just have that little extra magic. I have found that vintage or not , some guitars just have that something extra.
 

Ed A

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Hey there. Well, I chose this one not only because I’m so picky about flame but because it sounded great as well. Does it sound exactly like my vintage goldtop? No. But my vintage goldtop also has vintage PAFs and pots and tailpiece and bridge, etc. Even though these custombuckers are good, they’re still not PAFs. But it’s a great guitar with great sustain and harmonics, etc.… definitely impressed… But now that I have it, my mission is to find something that does all of those things and has the kind of flame I like, but also has a deeper burst. I’m passing on the 2020 Murphy aged because the guy wants too much and won’t budge. But I have a Murphy Lab being delivered to me tomorrow with really nice flame and cherry tea burst… If I don’t like it, it goes back, if I love it it stays and then the golden poppy honeyburst goes up for sale… Easy come, easy go lol!
 

GastonG

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Hi Ed, great one you got there.
My main guitar was my 2009 Pearly Gates till I found this brand new 2020 Murphy Lab. The tone was so much better ! It became my main guitar since.
Mine was made in 2020 (serial number), but the store got it in March 2021. I blindly jump on it and was really impressed (overwhelmed) when I got it.
The best reissue I've ever owned since 1994 !!!

Gaston🍷
 

c_wester

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Here are pictures of my newly purchased 2024 heavy aged Golden Poppy burst but more about that in a bit… A little background. I don’t get here often these days but I’ve been a member since we were a very small group going back to 1999. And 1999 happens to be the last time I bought a Tom Murphy aged Les Paul. Actually, I bought three that year. They are all gone now. The late '90s was a fun time, spending countless hours on the phone with Tom, him refinishing quite a few Les Pauls for me and visiting his home and shop in Illinois… For whatever reason 25 years later, I’m now getting obsessed with Murphys again albeit even if they’re not done by him but by the Murphy lab. I’ve been out of the reissue game for many many years so I’ve been recently catching up. I’m aware of the negative criticism of the current Murphy Lab guitars but I myself am quite impressed with this one that I bought about six weeks ago. While I and many others always felt Tom’s razor blade technique was a work of art, let’s face it, there’s nothing more real looking than real checking. I feel that the aging that the Murphy Lab is doing is convincing and I appreciate the time and effort they put into these guitars… I love this guitar! I’m very picky about flame, gotta have some wave to it and look vintage. I literally probably looked at 100 photos of available ones through the weeks until I found this one. But of course I’m already looking to see if I can top it. Actually the only reason why is I’m just not a honey burst guy. Every time I get a honey burst I end up selling. So I’m looking for a deeper burst with great flame, once again the search is on!!!

Which brings me to the discussion and some questions. From what I’ve learned with my recent searching is that somewhere around 2020 Tom showed Gibson his new lacquer formula which was thinner and harder and checked on its own. I believe the last Murphys to get the razor checking were in 2019 or thereabouts. And some time in 2020 Gibson re-hired him and the Murphy lab was created. And as we know except for specialty items, he no longer does the aging himself but his team does it. But I recently came across a Murphy aged model from 2020 that caught my eye. With that one its interesting in that Tom aged it and it comes with a certificate saying so, but it also has the real checking. So he did all of the heavy aging, but the checking was done naturally. I think its a pretty cool thing that some of the last guitars he aged in 2020 were some of the first guitars with real lacquer checking. My question is do you guys think that these 2020 Murphy aged guitars may be worth a bit more than the previous razor Murphys? And also do you have any idea if those late 2020 guitars were done before he was hired back by Gibson or after? The certificate book does not say Murphy Lab on it. It just says Murphy Aged. Curious if any of you gurus know more about this transition with Tom Murphy. Thanks!

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Would be nice with a tone report or video.
You make really good tone videos.

That 1988 sounded killer to my ears.
Really good.
 

JPP-1

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Would be nice with a tone report or video.
You make really good tone videos.

That 1988 sounded killer to my ears.
Really good.

I have to second this Ed. Love to see your ML and Goldy through your deluxe reverb II with jbl120f or one of your Marshalls. Love the honk. I know I have a good one when it i roll down the bridge and it sounds like when the levee breaks harmonica.
 

JPP-1

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Ed you mentioned a deeper burst. May I recommend Factory Burst

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Not me plying but the video shows the color of the guitar more accurately
 
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Ed A

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Ed you mentioned a deeper burst. May I recommend Factory Burst

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Not me plying but the video shows the color of the guitar more accurately
Yes! It’s just so happens that I just bought a factory burst and it will be to me on Monday. A 2022 with great flame and I love the color in the pictures. We’ll see what I think when it gets here!
 

c_wester

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Maybe not sell that one.... I feel it has real Burst tones,.
But all your guitars seam to sound good.
 
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