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She's got a thing...Historic Makeovers Content

jimmyace2006

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Be quiet, you've got plenty! :rofl

Joking aside, any of your collection that you would consider for an HM? :ganz

If I do one, it will be my 2009 R9 VOS. Just refin & aging. Everything else is great IMO. I want a lemon burst with color under the plastic parts & aging.
 

Classic71

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Seems I might have (key- might have) heard from a little bird that in the
future, after CC#3 (aka Donna) that a certain person from Florida just
might do Relic Aging on the Kossoff run......Hmmmmmm........
Would be nice for a Real Deal CC#4 the right way.......Hmmmmm.......LOL

If not, then make a VOS version and my little friend can do it up......

Anyone at Gibson listening? Hmmmmm.......

Any idea which Koss guitar? Darkburst? Stripped? :hmm
 

kthesheep

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If I do one, it will be my 2009 R9 VOS. Just refin & aging. Everything else is great IMO. I want a lemon burst with color under the plastic parts & aging.

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esmin

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My god! Kim, we need to make an appointment! I would just be so sad with not having my baby for a few months!
 

TM1

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I'm happy to defer to your experience in this matter, and common sense dictates that such an important joint on a Les Paul should be as snug and tight fitting as possible. But, I can't help thinking about a couple of great sounding (to me) Strats I've played that have had cardboard shims, micro tilt neck adjustment systems, loose bolts and god knows what else going on in the neck pocket area.

However, I'll admit I don't have the most discerning ear when it comes to guitar tone. But from memory, the price for the HM neck reset isn't cheap so I suppose you'd need to be convinced of the benefits before going down this road. I can tell you're definitely convinced so good luck to you, it's your money and your guitars so go for it. Finally, I only know Kim by reputation but if both he and Florian Jaeger consider this a worthwhile exercise then who am I to argue? It wouldn't appear that they need to create the extra work for themselves.

I agree that this joint needs to be the tighest glue joint on the guitar.
Now, with that in mind,Titebond does nothing to insure that. Hot Hide Glue and Urea Formaldehyde will draw the two pieces of wood together as they dry creating a super tight, secure joint.
Hot Hide Glue and the Urea are very, very similar in content and results. Urea was used by Gibson as well as Hot Hide Glue.
 

Classic71

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Without going too far off topic, what I'd like to know is this - in the 50's, generally speaking were Gibson's luthiers producing a consistently better and tighter, snugger fitting neck joint than what is being achieved nowadays with CNC and all the other 21st century technology, tools and materials available?

This is what I'm unsure of because I've seen evidence of shims and other "buggeration" employed when a neck of an original burst has not fitted properly. So were things better in the 50's or today?
 

goldtop0

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A thing of beauty mistersnappy......congrats:salude
I was hoping to catch up with Kim and co at the recent Arlington show but he wasn't there this year unfortunately.Hmmm...... I would have camped at his stall had he been as I think the work done on all that I've seen is outstanding.

And drooling......that's consistent with owning a good LP :lol
 

TM1

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Without going too far off topic, what I'd like to know is this - in the 50's, generally speaking were Gibson's luthiers producing a consistently better and tighter, snugger fitting neck joint than what is being achieved nowadays with CNC and all the other 21st century technology, tools and materials available?

This is what I'm unsure of because I've seen evidence of shims and other "buggeration" employed when a neck of an original burst has not fitted properly. So were things better in the 50's or today?

Back in the `50's, most neck/body joints were done by hand. You can see the occasional shim. Gibson wasn't the only one that used shims in neck pockets. I've seen it on a number of late `50's & `60's Gretsch guitars.
As far as now, The CNC does 95% of the work, but the tenon is still fitted by hand, BUT the tolerences are alot higher because of the CNC. The neck/tenon block is still hand done for final adjustments.
Kim can answer this best as he's seen a number of Les Paul's neck pockets.
 
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