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Stolen Guitar Turns Up On A Dealer Website

rockabilly69

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I know it is easy to talk retrospectively, but you should have "ordered" it from the crooked dealer then cancelled your payment once it was back with you where it belongs. After all, once these stolen goods are back with the rightful owner it would be more than difficult for the crooks to lay any claim on them.
Too late now though . . . whereabouts unknown. Unless you put some pressure on the dealer who sent it back to his buddy. He clearly IS NOT going to do the right thing while he thinks he doesn't have to. He might respond to some actual knock on the door type pressure though.
That is exactly how I got my stolen guitar back. The thief tried to sell it to my friend who owns a music store. Unfortunately for the crook my friend had worked on my guitar and recognized it. So he wrote the jerk a phoney check, and when the guy went to the bank to cash it and found out the check was no good, he came back to the music store and a cop was waiting for him. The thief said that he owned the guitar since a certain date and my friend knew he was a liar because he had worked on it and had physical possession of the guitar when the thief said he had it. The cop took the guitar with him, but he had to let the thief go because when he called the precinct where my case was being handled they couldn't find my police report!!!! That's why you don't ever trust police. My guitar was also held in evidence for SIX MONTHS!!! What a bunch of bunglers.
 

Marcel M

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That is exactly how I got my stolen guitar back. The thief tried to sell it to my friend who owns a music store. Unfortunately for the crook my friend had worked on my guitar and recognized it. So he wrote the jerk a phoney check, and when the guy went to the bank to cash it and found out the check was no good, he came back to the music store and a cop was waiting for him. The thief said that he owned the guitar since a certain date and my friend knew he was a liar because he had worked on it and had physical possession of the guitar when the thief said he had it. The cop took the guitar with him, but he had to let the thief go because when he called the precinct where my case was being handled they couldn't find my police report!!!! That's why you don't ever trust police. My guitar was also held in evidence for SIX MONTHS!!! What a bunch of bunglers.

In that specific situation that tactic works, yes, but in RR's case, given the facts stated in this thread, that would not work. The shop wanted a bank wire. The shop also took the guitar down. Also, what a jackass that thief was for taking a personal check...:## All the better for you though! :salude
 

billbixby

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Once you supplied the police report, the dealer should have kept the guitar and contacted the police. NOT RETURN IT to the person selling it. WTF!!! There is a protocol in these situations!

RAISE SOME HELL!

Bring lots of guns with you when you go :spabout
 

gcat

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Mr. Russell, I sincerely hope you are able to recover your guitar. What an awful situation, you've been robbed of far more than your guitar, by multiple perpetrators. I've read every post in this thread, and while I admire your approach to handling it all the 'proper' way, it may be indeed time to get medieval. Sounds like there are three guitar dealers that need to go down. What a shame.
 

Norlight

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I too have have been hoping for an update RichRuss. I look forward to some news and wish you the best my friend.
 

Stanmannn

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I too have have been hoping for an update RichRuss. I look forward to some news and wish you the best my friend.

I just saw this thread, since there was a wire transfer "supposedly" wouldn't the Feds be able to be involved. If this happened to you, has it happened to others? I gather that it was on consignment at the music store. If the dealer ripped you off, doesn't the "music store that shall remain nameless" have to provide proof that they "paid" you? A transaction of that size can't be just cash and no receipt.

I hope you get your guitar back. Good Luck
 

gcat

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I just saw this thread, since there was a wire transfer "supposedly" wouldn't the Feds be able to be involved. If this happened to you, has it happened to others? I gather that it was on consignment at the music store. If the dealer ripped you off, doesn't the "music store that shall remain nameless" have to provide proof that they "paid" you? A transaction of that size can't be just cash and no receipt.

I hope you get your guitar back. Good Luck

That's not what happened. You need to read the original post.
 

abalonevintage

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The cop took the guitar with him, but he had to let the thief go because when he called the precinct where my case was being handled they couldn't find my police report!!!! That's why you don't ever trust police.

My shop was broken into about 15 years ago and one guitar was stolen. I kept a copy of the police report by the cash register in a file. I heard the guitar was in a pawnshop and I called the police every hour for two days until they got off their butts and went and got it.


At that point, it became a negotiation with the insurance company to buy it back.
 
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Hey guys,
Sorry i have been away. I am in the process of filing a lawsuit against the dealer who had the guitar and then shipped it back to "mystery owner/dealer".
I am just hoping to find the guitar and get it back somehow.
I have never heard from the "lawyer" after that one phone call and his demand for $30K.
Its just a crazy situation.
Thanks.
 

J.D.

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Good for you, that is what I would probably do in this situation. Good luck.
 

Russ2

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Good for you, that is what I would probably do in this situation. Good luck.

Consider naming 10 or so Doe Dedendants. Include allegations for fraud, conspiracy which can carry punitive damage claims. Send written discovery to the shop owner for the name and address of the guy he would not identify, then name and serve that person when he answers the discovery. A short set of Requests for Admissions would also be useful. Include a claim for negligennce to try and trigger insurance if any, but that should get their attention. Run the name of the company through the Secretary of State to see if there are other owners to name. Also name the business, it may not be legally closed. That should get someone's attention. If there was a case include the cost of that. Rat basterds.
 

renderit

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Lord.

Cynthia,

You really are not coming across here in the manner you think you are.

Trust me on this.

Put your gun back in the holster, stick your gum under the table, slide your boots off the table and walk oot the door.

Be aware that it swings both ways on those funny hinges so it don't smack you in the keister further burying your "intelecktual arguements".

If by "throwing fists" you mean I pointed out some huge issues

Do you just hang around and look to criticize other people because your life is that empty Cody?
 
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