Thoughts?

[Kris Ford]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gib...05&prg=11353&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=151467646831&rt=nc
Ok, I know these guys are known rapists and parts monkeys..what's the feeling on this one?
Came with week 32 of 69 pots, yet has "pro upgraded" CTS 500Ks..hmm, lemme guess where all the good parts went..:dang

 

[Reno_1ted]

I wouldn't trust that this isn't 70s. If no serial number from factory is true, I don't think they can point to a lack of "made in USA" stamp as evidence of it being 69. It's not likely to have had that either. They say the pots were 69, only they know that. Once you own it you will struggle with any resale as a 69 as there is zero proof.

With all the parts missing as well, I would pass. Id buy a norlin with same construction, all original parts and a serial number.

 

[moonweasel]

Its probably a 910-923xxx early 1970 guitar. That is NOT the early proto-volute, but a full on Norlin volute. It still has the 69 pearl logo though, so, has to be early 70. The 69's had the barely disernable volute. This one is rocking the pancake body as well. I have nothing against the pancake, but at that point, might as well get ANY lpc from 1970-74 because the specs are basically identical.

Never seen a Gibson without a serial.

 

[DonRowe]

It would have to be a magical guitar in my hands to interest me at all

 

[toxpert]

I used to own a '69 with a "proto-volute". This is not one of that series.

I also agree with the prior posting comments. This one looks like every part, that could be, was stripped off and replaced with new/aftermarket.

If bought...beware of the 'fretless' frets and the potential for a VERY HEAVY guitar.

 

[Kris Ford]

Yeah, seems we're all on the same page..not that I was actively looking, but getting some ideas on how to squander my upcoming Xmas bonus.
I'd be happy with a legit, original 70-74, even the right 75-80.:salude

 

[moonweasel]

Kris,

Personally, I need a mahogany neck; that's just me though. A hell of a lot of good music has been written and played on the maple neck examples.

 

[Kris Ford]

I would prefer LSLP for sure, but if the right 70-80 speaks to me, then it's a done deal..I don't mind the maple necks, my '77 RD has one (fretboard and body are maple too!), and it's just fine with me.
I'd looooove a '76 Black Beauty with chrome hardware..love that look!
But I will find one..a '74 would be cool too, as that is my birth year..

 

[roustabout]

I would prefer LSLP for sure, but if the right 70-80 speaks to me, then it's a done deal..I don't mind the maple necks, my '77 RD has one (fretboard and body are maple too!), and it's just fine with me.
I'd looooove a '76 Black Beauty with chrome hardware..love that look!
But I will find one..a '74 would be cool too, as that is my birth year..

You could go for a 74 20th anniversary Black Beauty?

 

[Reno_1ted]

74s tend to be quite pricey but beautiful customs. They have Witch hat knobs though Kris?

I'm with you moon, gotta be mahogany necks for me.

 

[Kris Ford]

74s tend to be quite pricey but beautiful customs. They have Witch hat knobs though Kris?

I'm with you moon, gotta be mahogany necks for me.

Hahaha..I hereby officially retract my statement that they look bad on a LPC..:laugh2:
I think there are '74 non anni versions, that's the one I'd want..hate to be picky, but don't care for any kind of commemorative stuff like that..
But my lovely Lady is a 1975 model, she says, "get a '75!" I can't argue with that! But she knows it's all about which one sounds and plays the best. Luckily from 70-86 there's plenty to choose from..I vowed not to buy anything made in the Henry J era..Kzoo made CMI or Norlin era ONLY for me!:yah

 

[MIKE LEAF]

I vowed not to buy anything made in the Henry J era..Kzoo made CMI or Norlin era ONLY for me!:yah

They moved most of the LP production to Nashville starting in 1975 , so getting one made in Kalamazoo probably looking at pre 1975.

 

[shred]

Its probably a 910-923xxx early 1970 guitar. That is NOT the early proto-volute, but a full on Norlin volute. It still has the 69 pearl logo though, so, has to be early 70. The 69's had the barely disernable volute. This one is rocking the pancake body as well. I have nothing against the pancake, but at that point, might as well get ANY lpc from 1970-74 because the specs are basically identical.

Never seen a Gibson without a serial.

Great post. The only reason to pay extra cash for a LSLP is for the features that differentiate it from the early 70's Norlins (P90s, neck, body, headstock, no volute etc). The more of those features you have, the earlier and more desirable/expensive it is. The 70-74 GT's and customs are great guitars and can be had for much less. My favourite feature is the one piece body... I don't mind three piece necks as long as they're mahogany :2cool

 

[Kris Ford]

They moved most of the LP production to Nashville starting in 1975 , so getting one made in Kalamazoo probably looking at pre 1975.

Yep..also kinda hoping to find a routed Deluxe (professionally done, not with screw driver..), as I would dig a Goldtop with HBs as well..also willing to check out any Nashville made pre '86, I won't rule those out..so far my Gibsons are all Kzoo, even my '77 RD Custom, which is my "newest" Gibson..
I had a tobacco burst '75 Deluxe in the '90's, and I dug it..but would rather have humbuckers, but would never route one that is clean..I'm sure there's plenty of 'em out there, and would get me back in a LP cheaper..