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Throbak Koss-301

JLee

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Any users? I have a set on order for a 1980 Tokai LS-80.

I have Throbak PG-102 and ER Custom sets and love both of them. The LS-80 currently has OX4 Low Winds with Throbak UOA5 magnets and Throbak covers. I always felt there was a level of complexity that’s missing compared to my Throbaks, so I ordered a set of the Koss-301s.

Not necessarily trying to cop Kossoff’s tone, but they sounded like they might be a good fit for this guitar, which has a deep, darker voice.
 

TM1

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They’re Great pickups! I have a set in a ‘61 single cut Melody Maker and they really made that guitar come alive!
 

Emiel

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The Koss set has a 8.6K neck pickup, won't that make the sound too dark and woofy?

Funny fact: I too have a LS80 fitted with exactly, OX4 low winds (Alnico IV).
 

JLee

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I’ll let you know how the Koss set works out. Didn’t think about the neck...
 

JLee

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Holy s**t these sound amazing!
I ordered the pre-repair set. I was concerned about the hotter neck pickup, but these balance beautifully and the neck is nice and clear.

Not at all what I’ve know as A2 tone. None of the excess sponginess I’ve always associated with A2. Bright, open, woody and snarly! Very, very honest pickups. Absolutely cannot hide sloppy technique behind these pickups.

So much character and harmonics.

These are great for copping Clapton’s Fresh Cream tones.

Absolutely fantastic! Well worth the price of entry in my opinion.
 

Sol

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Can I ask how bright the Koss-301 set is compared to your other ThroBak sets?
Also how do the Koss 301s compare with the PG-102 ?

I'm considering ordering a set but I'm still undecided, so your observations are very welcome.
 

JLee

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I currently own the Koss 301, PG-102 and ER Customs. I’ve also owned the Pre-Ts.
All are/were in different guitars.

The Koss set is the brightest, but not by much. I still wouldn’t consider them overly bright. Has bite, but the highs are not at all strident. Really nicely balanced.

Less low end punch than all of the other sets, but A2 in the Koss set vs A5 in all of the others. They come across as clearer sounding, but that’s not to say the other sets don’t have clarity. All the sets I own/owned have great string separation. Neck position is heaven. Everything you hear about classic PAF neck pickup tones. Woody, warm and a little hollow.

The PG102 set has a crunchier tone with a more direct attack. Softer attack with the Koss set, but still nicely defined in the low end. Like being punched in the face with a velvet glove rather than a leather glove.

The ER Customs have a nice low mid emphasis that’s great for thinner sounding guitars. They’re not as hot as the PG-102. I imagine they’re not terribly far off a Patent Number PAF with the short A5 magnets. They are in a semi-hollow and really brought that guitar to life.

The PG-102s are the hottest set, followed by the ER Customs and Koss set. Different guitars, so hard to say if the Koss set has more output than the ER Customs. They all have enough output to push a NMV amp into overdrive.

The Koss set cops a great Fresh Cream tone. The PG-102 set is the closest I’ve ever gotten to Peter Green tone. Too many people focus only on the out of phase tones, but these nail Peter Green’s tones in every position.

Dont pay any attention to the Koss set’s readings. The hotter neck is nice and clear and the bridge pickup has plenty of push and balls. They are so well balanced.
 
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Sol

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Wow. Thankyou for perhaps the most detailed frank and helpful reply to a pickup question I've ever had.
I really appreciate your help. If anything else should come to mind don't hesitate to contact me privately.
 
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JLee

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Wow. Thankyou for perhaps the most detailed frank and helpful reply to a pickup question I've ever had.
I really appreciate your help. If anything else should come to mind don't hesitate to contact me.
Likewise, if you have any more questions, fire away!
 
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Sol

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I love the Koss set that Jon Gundry/ThroBak makes!!
TM1 : Are you happy to include your own experience with the Koss-301 set from ThroBak ?
If you could include the guitar type as part of your experience I'd be genuinely obliged to you..
 
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