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Untouched since 1964 les paul 1959 burst find. in near mint conditioin.

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@cr75 My condolences to you for the loss of family members and congratulations for the spectacular find after so much time. I can't imagine. Best of luck to you in your search for information. I'm eagerly awaiting the pictures to be posted :cool:.
 

Wally

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Maybe the friend returned it to the OP’s grandparents while their son was in the service. They put it away and forgot about it??? it would be east to be suspicious. It would be a ma4velous story if true! We need pics.
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kerryboy

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It amazes me how much trust some of you guys show and how much credence you give to a good story like this. Always giving the benefit of the doubt.
Does the fact that he posts a photo of a guitar but not the actual guitar and also the lack of any response not raise your suspicions at all.
 

pinefd

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It amazes me how much trust some of you guys show and how much credence you give to a good story like this. Always giving the benefit of the doubt.
Does the fact that he posts a photo of a guitar but not the actual guitar and also the lack of any response not raise your suspicions at all.

Actually, while I read the story with some suspicion, where the OP totally lost me was with this line: "I called gibson and from the serial number it was produced from 1959-1960." The number would identify it as either a '59 or a '60. There should be no doubt.


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stumphead

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now that I reread the OP more carefully I wonder too

he states - "but I don't need such a possibly valuable instrument"

if you find a vintage burst in an attic with all the case candy and bill of sale .... and you know your dad bought it in the early sixties ..... and you know to come to the les paul forum for advice and you like les pauls yourself and you know about "true historics " ........ how do you NOT know its valuable ??????

NOT TO MENTION THAT HE KNEW A BROWN CASE INDICATED A 50's INSTRUMENT
 

cr75

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I'm sorry for the delay in my response. I was worried about the doubters and they neysayers. I expected it. If the proof were right in front of you, such as a sign that says "don't touch, wet paint" most people will touch it just to see if it's wet. As far as gibson and the uncertainty of the serial number, I was told that serial numbers get reused. That particular number several times throughout the years. Never on a les paul historic reissue of type that though. Gibson also said that was during the time of the end run of that type of les paul so serial numbers could be confusing. I've found two reputable stores in catonsville that are assisting me. They are confirming dates on the electronics, factory solder joints, hardware, ect. fd
I'm also in the process of finalizing the estate. I am an only child remaining on my fathers and aunts side of the family so there should be no additional claims to anything left behind. I've been advised not to publicly disclose the serial number, or provide any pictures until the instrument has legally been declared mine. This will eliminate any crazy claims that it belonged to them and were somehow swindled out of it. Apparently this happens frequently enough to be a precaution. And to any or the doubters my father did continue to dabble in guitars in his younger years, He got into the johnny cash style of cowboy strumming and bought a martin D35 and had no desire for a les paul. He let me use while i was in High School when he felt i was responsible enough. I don't think he realized that damage he caused to it leaving it sit in the case for long periods of time. I still have it but It's been basically unplayable since i got it. The action is so high above the 3 fret it's only good for cowboy chords. The pick guard was lacquered over at the factory and has slowly shrunk and caused a crack in the sound board. The neck has a square unadjustable truss rod so its basically unplayable except for the c,a,d and g chords. Anyway, I will post pics when I'm told its safe to do so. And if anyone here has the ability to put me in contact with John Bonamassa once That would be incredible once the instrument is verified....and proven. i would love to work out out a trade on a 1964 olympic white Stratocaster that hasn't been beat to hell. Sorry, relicked. Thank you to everyone that believes me. And to the doubting Thomas' I will conclude the validity of this post. I rather enjoy disproving skeptics.
 

kerryboy

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Sorry matey, but the more I read your posts the more I realize you are talking through your arse. You have created the skeptics and your most recent post does nothing to dispel the validity of your claim.
Show the photos and be done with it.
 

thin sissy

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I'm sorry for the delay in my response. I was worried about the doubters and they neysayers. I expected it. If the proof were right in front of you, such as a sign that says "don't touch, wet paint" most people will touch it just to see if it's wet. As far as gibson and the uncertainty of the serial number, I was told that serial numbers get reused. That particular number several times throughout the years. Never on a les paul historic reissue of type that though. Gibson also said that was during the time of the end run of that type of les paul so serial numbers could be confusing. I've found two reputable stores in catonsville that are assisting me. They are confirming dates on the electronics, factory solder joints, hardware, ect. fd
I'm also in the process of finalizing the estate. I am an only child remaining on my fathers and aunts side of the family so there should be no additional claims to anything left behind. I've been advised not to publicly disclose the serial number, or provide any pictures until the instrument has legally been declared mine. This will eliminate any crazy claims that it belonged to them and were somehow swindled out of it. Apparently this happens frequently enough to be a precaution. And to any or the doubters my father did continue to dabble in guitars in his younger years, He got into the johnny cash style of cowboy strumming and bought a martin D35 and had no desire for a les paul. He let me use while i was in High School when he felt i was responsible enough. I don't think he realized that damage he caused to it leaving it sit in the case for long periods of time. I still have it but It's been basically unplayable since i got it. The action is so high above the 3 fret it's only good for cowboy chords. The pick guard was lacquered over at the factory and has slowly shrunk and caused a crack in the sound board. The neck has a square unadjustable truss rod so its basically unplayable except for the c,a,d and g chords. Anyway, I will post pics when I'm told its safe to do so. And if anyone here has the ability to put me in contact with John Bonamassa once That would be incredible once the instrument is verified....and proven. i would love to work out out a trade on a 1964 olympic white Stratocaster that hasn't been beat to hell. Sorry, relicked. Thank you to everyone that believes me. And to the doubting Thomas' I will conclude the validity of this post. I rather enjoy disproving skeptics.
Just a little side note: there is no law that states every burst must be sold to Bonamassa :LOL:
 

jb_abides

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Burst experts: do case queen aniline dye Les Paul cherry bursts fade to lemon while kept from light & UV? Please weigh in, as I need to protect my nitro'd historic reissues with polyurethane ASAP! :cool:
 

guitplayer

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This... relicked John Bonamassa sound board square unadjustable truss rod .
Nay........not Ney....
 

fakejake

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Burst experts: do case queen aniline dye Les Paul cherry bursts fade to lemon while kept from light & UV? Please weigh in, as I need to protect my nitro'd historic reissues with polyurethane ASAP! :cool:
No, but apparently some of the bursts faded even before being sold, just from a couple of months haning in shop windows. Could be that that particular one was already faded by '64.
 

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Wally

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I'm sorry for the delay in my response. I was worried about the doubters and they neysayers. I expected it. If the proof were right in front of you, such as a sign that says "don't touch, wet paint" most people will touch it just to see if it's wet. As far as gibson and the uncertainty of the serial number, I was told that serial numbers get reused. That particular number several times throughout the years. Never on a les paul historic reissue of type that though. Gibson also said that was during the time of the end run of that type of les paul so serial numbers could be confusing. I've found two reputable stores in catonsville that are assisting me. They are confirming dates on the electronics, factory solder joints, hardware, ect. fd
I'm also in the process of finalizing the estate. I am an only child remaining on my fathers and aunts side of the family so there should be no additional claims to anything left behind. I've been advised not to publicly disclose the serial number, or provide any pictures until the instrument has legally been declared mine. This will eliminate any crazy claims that it belonged to them and were somehow swindled out of it. Apparently this happens frequently enough to be a precaution. And to any or the doubters my father did continue to dabble in guitars in his younger years, He got into the johnny cash style of cowboy strumming and bought a martin D35 and had no desire for a les paul. He let me use while i was in High School when he felt i was responsible enough. I don't think he realized that damage he caused to it leaving it sit in the case for long periods of time. I still have it but It's been basically unplayable since i got it. The action is so high above the 3 fret it's only good for cowboy chords. The pick guard was lacquered over at the factory and has slowly shrunk and caused a crack in the sound board. The neck has a square unadjustable truss rod so its basically unplayable except for the c,a,d and g chords. Anyway, I will post pics when I'm told its safe to do so. And if anyone here has the ability to put me in contact with John Bonamassa once That would be incredible once the instrument is verified....and proven. i would love to work out out a trade on a 1964 olympic white Stratocaster that hasn't been beat to hell. Sorry, relicked. Thank you to everyone that believes me. And to the doubting Thomas' I will conclude the validity of this post. I rather enjoy disproving skeptics.
Well, imho, IF you like disproving skeptics, you are doing a good job of creating them So as to have adversaries. (;^)
I want to believe this story. But...the serial number thing is a flag. A 1959 starts with a ‘9’. A 1960 starts with a ‘0’. Early in the year, there will be a space after the first digit followed b6 four digits. Once the serial number count went past 9999, there will be no space between the first and second digit and there will be a six digit serial number.
lemon burst??? Your dad bought it in 1964. I might accept that the cherry faded quickly....especially if it hung unsold or as a used instrument in a store while exposed to sunlight.
it would take just a few minutes to see those codes 9n the pots as well as the solder jo8nts. That is a guitar which would not be out of my sight for any length of time unless I trusted the person with my life.
Your story about the D35 confuses the issue. One would do well to separate one instrument from the other so as to be clear.
Paragraphs are handy for this purpose. It probably needs a neck reset.
I will hang around to see whadahey after the legalities are tended to.
 
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